I'm right there with you, Garth. The best way for me to estimate fit is to compare stack/reach and other frame dimensions to any of my current bikes that fit me well. I also wish Rivendell would be more forthcoming with that information. I get that they're trying to make things easier/simpler by reducing it all down to PBH and PBH alone, but that doesn't quite do it for a lot of us. I'm sure there's a reason they've taken down all their geometry and stopped posting frame specs altogether but your guess is as good as mine. I don't need them to go full bicycle quarterly but it'd be nice to get some more details.
Similarly, I have the same feeling about upright riding positions. I feel much more stable on a bicycle with more weight over the front wheel. Maybe it's just what I'm used to but I feel unstable and sluggish with all of my weight over the rear of the bike. Maybe I'd have a better experience on a long-wheelbase Riv that's designed around that position, but like you, I'm perfectly happy hammering away in a somewhat-race-y position on my somewhat-race-y bikes. For now, at least. Despite this, I still love looking at all the beautiful upright Rivs that have been posted lately. The Platypus has some really attractive lines and I've been enamored with the Susie/Gus frames ever since they came out. I reckon I will reconsider my riding position someday, especially if I hang onto the notion that I'd like it better on the right bike. Who knows, maybe I'll end up with a Gus or a Platypus if my curiosity gets the best of me. On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 7:17:07 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote: > ((( Laughing )) .... I hate it when anyone asks "what's your pbh ?" It's > like asking "what's your sign ?" As if it means what ... ? > Going by crotch height alone totally ignores/assumes what frame reach > someone may want/need. If you're a everyday cyclist it's very helpful to > teach yourself about these things. Posting the frame stack and reach is > very helpful, but the guys @Riv don't make it easily known. Bike fitters > and formulas are all geared certain "outputs" that go along with their > biased "inputs". If you don't like their answers, it's better to do it > yourself as no one knows you better. You can get creative and think outside > the boxes of cycling "conventions"(like crank length for example), which > largely go unchallenged by most. > > Now, if I didn't know exactly the dimensions of a frame I need I may have > bought other stock Rivs and been sadly disappointed and sold them due to a > too short of frame reach. I don't dig the high bar/upright "driving Miss > Daisy" thing at all either. I tried it and found I liked much more forward > leaning positions and bars no higher than the saddle, even with Albatross > bars. I'm as flexible on the bike as I ever was and will put on some drop > bars over the winter as that's a good time to mess with such things. I can > still ride in a comfortable race-like position and have a "heads up" view. > Having a strong core is most helpful. I'm thoroughly enjoying > riding fast with the pedal to the metal this year. Just hammer and stop > thinking ! Ahahahahahaaaa ! Hammer hammer hammer and when you're done > hammering ..... hammer some more ! It's not about time or distance, it's > about F U N ! Just let go of "I am so and so thus limited to so and so" , > and BE the fun ! Life is inherently FUN !, lest there be LIFE at all . I > can drive like Miss Daisy in my pickup truck but I don't want to ride my > bike like that ! Hammer time, yipeee ! > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/63d0ca9b-d653-4fc5-b7b2-b7ef3d5130b7n%40googlegroups.com.
