My inclination fron your parts options is to try the 3x RapidFire on the 
front (it may work with that derailer) and buy an 8-speed RapidFire for 
your Altus rear derailer and an 8-speed cassette. But it would help a lot 
to know what system she's used to. 

On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:03:26 PM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:

> What do y'all think about putting friction bar end shifters on Albatross 
> bars for a new rider?
>
> I'm just looking for opinions since I'm stumped on this build.
>
> My options are more-or-less indexed or friction 9 speed Microshift 
> thumbies, friction bar ends, or buy some rapid fire shifters.
>
> I (selfishly) want to keep the thumbies for a different build for myself. 
> And I'd have to buy a set of rapid fire shifters - which has its own 
> problems (derrailer/cassette mismatching ...).
>
> So I want to know - Do you think a new rider would be irritated by 
> friction bar ends?
>
> Here's the long story:
>
> I have a very short friend (4'11" - PBH is 72). If money and availability 
> were no object, I'd buy her a 45cm Clem and be done with it, but I can't do 
> that myself, and she'd never spend that kind of money on a bike (at least 
> not until she catches the biking bug from this bike I'm building her since 
> it'll be the first bike that's ever fit her).
>
> So my goal is to build a bike that fits her and is so fun to ride that 
> she'll want to ride bikes all the time and eventually just buy a Clem.
>
> I finally found a frame that will fit her. It's a tiny (41 cm) 90s 
> Hardrock step through with 26" wheels and Shimano 200ES drive train, which 
> is low end 90s 7-speed stuff. It has a triple crank that I will leave in 
> place (buttery smooth even after 30 years). Both derailers are in good 
> shape, but they're low end 90s stuff, so I doubt they feel great, but I bet 
> they'd work with friction just fine. It came with junky old rapid fire 
> shifters, so those are definitely getting replaced.
>
> I'm planning to put Albatross bars on this bike, so my quandary is about 
> the drivetrain. I'd like to use as many parts from my bin as possible, but 
> I can't decide which combo is gonna work best and be the most fun for a 
> timid rider. Buying new parts is no big deal, but I don't see the point in 
> spending a bunch of money in the event she doesn't ride it much, so here 
> are the relevant parts from my bin:
>
>    - Rear wheel options - 7 speed cassette wheel with good cassette. 
>    8/9/10 speed wheel with no cassette.
>    - Shifters -Microshift 9 speed thumbies (I kinda want to keep these 
>    for another build). Shimano bar ends that no longer index.
>    - Derailers - New Altus 8 speed RD. Old Sora 9 speed RD. Shimano 600ES 
>    7 speed RD.
>    
> So here are my options:
>
>
>    1. Keep the old 7 speed stuff. Friction bar ends or friction thumbies.
>    2. Buy a new 8 speed cassette. Use the Altus RD from my box. Friction 
>    thumbies or bar ends.
>    3. Buy a 9 speed cassette and a 9 speed derailer. Indexed Microshift 
>    thumbies.
>    4. Buy a 9 speed cassette, derailer, and rapid fire shifter. The 
>    Sunrace 9 speed stuff comes out to about $60 for the whole set up.
>
> I have a new 3x rapid fire shifter for the front, but I hate how those 
> shift, and I don't think I have a matching derailer - I can test the 200GS 
> FD that is on there, but I personally think friction front is the way to 
> go, and I definitely prefer a bar end for that over a thumbie, because the 
> leverage feels better to me.
>
> Since bar ends are just such a joy to use and have so much leverage, I 
> suspect the Altus derailer and a 8 or 9 speed cassette with a friction bar 
> end will be fantastic for her, but I'd love some second opinions, and since 
> it's winter, I'm sure there are plenty out there, so feel free to make blue 
> sky suggestions :)
>
> Here's the bike before I tore it down to grease everything[image: 
> signal-2022-09-20-09-24-24-645.jpg]
>
> Thanks,
> Paul in AR
>

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