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  On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 6:44 PM, Joe Bernard<joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:   My 
inclination fron your parts options is to try the 3x RapidFire on the front (it 
may work with that derailer) and buy an 8-speed RapidFire for your Altus rear 
derailer and an 8-speed cassette. But it would help a lot to know what system 
she's used to. 

On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:03:26 PM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:

What do y'all think about putting friction bar end shifters on Albatross bars 
for a new rider?

I'm just looking for opinions since I'm stumped on this build.
My options are more-or-less indexed or friction 9 speed Microshift thumbies, 
friction bar ends, or buy some rapid fire shifters.

I (selfishly) want to keep the thumbies for a different build for myself. And 
I'd have to buy a set of rapid fire shifters - which has its own problems 
(derrailer/cassette mismatching ...).
So I want to know - Do you think a new rider would be irritated by friction bar 
ends?
Here's the long story:

I have a very short friend (4'11" - PBH is 72). If money and availability were 
no object, I'd buy her a 45cm Clem and be done with it, but I can't do that 
myself, and she'd never spend that kind of money on a bike (at least not until 
she catches the biking bug from this bike I'm building her since it'll be the 
first bike that's ever fit her).

So my goal is to build a bike that fits her and is so fun to ride that she'll 
want to ride bikes all the time and eventually just buy a Clem.

I finally found a frame that will fit her. It's a tiny (41 cm) 90s Hardrock 
step through with 26" wheels and Shimano 200ES drive train, which is low end 
90s 7-speed stuff. It has a triple crank that I will leave in place (buttery 
smooth even after 30 years). Both derailers are in good shape, but they're low 
end 90s stuff, so I doubt they feel great, but I bet they'd work with friction 
just fine. It came with junky old rapid fire shifters, so those are definitely 
getting replaced.

I'm planning to put Albatross bars on this bike, so my quandary is about the 
drivetrain. I'd like to use as many parts from my bin as possible, but I can't 
decide which combo is gonna work best and be the most fun for a timid rider. 
Buying new parts is no big deal, but I don't see the point in spending a bunch 
of money in the event she doesn't ride it much, so here are the relevant parts 
from my bin:   
   - Rear wheel options - 7 speed cassette wheel with good cassette. 8/9/10 
speed wheel with no cassette.
   - Shifters -Microshift 9 speed thumbies (I kinda want to keep these for 
another build). Shimano bar ends that no longer index.   

   - Derailers - New Altus 8 speed RD. Old Sora 9 speed RD. Shimano 600ES 7 
speed RD.   

So here are my options:

   
   - Keep the old 7 speed stuff. Friction bar ends or friction thumbies.
   - Buy a new 8 speed cassette. Use the Altus RD from my box. Friction 
thumbies or bar ends.
   - Buy a 9 speed cassette and a 9 speed derailer. Indexed Microshift thumbies.
   - Buy a 9 speed cassette, derailer, and rapid fire shifter. The Sunrace 9 
speed stuff comes out to about $60 for the whole set up.
I have a new 3x rapid fire shifter for the front, but I hate how those shift, 
and I don't think I have a matching derailer - I can test the 200GS FD that is 
on there, but I personally think friction front is the way to go, and I 
definitely prefer a bar end for that over a thumbie, because the leverage feels 
better to me.
Since bar ends are just such a joy to use and have so much leverage, I suspect 
the Altus derailer and a 8 or 9 speed cassette with a friction bar end will be 
fantastic for her, but I'd love some second opinions, and since it's winter, 
I'm sure there are plenty out there, so feel free to make blue sky suggestions 
:)
Here's the bike before I tore it down to grease everything

Thanks,Paul in AR



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