Around these parts it's not uncommon to see milk crates attached to bicycle rear racks, probably with zip ties, for hauling everything under the sun. Not sure how stable they are - some don't look to solid.
On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 11:35:23 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: > Thanks, John. I daresay that more solid attachments would make a > difference. I'll be interested to see any photos you can find. > > Back to the Pletscher bolted to seatstay clamps on that Sprite: The sway > was almost unbelievably bad with 30 lb in the rear baskets and I recall > being glad that most of the return trip was on a back road and not on the > parallel Wisconsin Avenue on which my WDC apartment fronted. Still, it was > better than walking. > > Sprite was a garage sale or thrift store find with flipped and trimmed > North Road bar and 1X5 shifted by Alvit rd pulled by big chromed steel stem > shifter. A fun bike when not loaded with groceries. > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 6:47 AM 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch < > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> Patrick >> >> Good point on rigidity. >> >> I don't think the modern Pletscher is much more rigid, but the mounting >> is more rigid. The folks up there typically mount the older style rack's >> front to the rack mounts on the stays using a U shaped piece of steel strip >> going from the rack mounts and the rack being attached to the bottom of the >> U. This makes the front mounting much more rigid than the steel plate >> sandwiched between the stays method Pletscher used before. The rack's flat >> mounting piece in the front bolts directly to the U shaped piece oif steel >> strip >> >> I'll try to get a picture of the U shaped mounting the next time we get >> up there. >> >> Also, I think the new Pletscher racks mount directly to the rack mounts, >> increasing rigidity of the front mounting. . >> >> These folks use recent frames, vs older frames, and they come with rack >> mounts on the stays. The new frames fit the needs of these folks better >> than the older frames, which typically don't have rack mounts. Also, new >> Fuji's, Jamis's, etc come with new components which work good vs 'legacy' >> equipment which can be hard to find when replacement is needed. They want >> utility, not really 'memories'. >> >> John Hawrylak >> Woodstown NJ >> >> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:42:16 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: >> >>> Is the modern Pletscher better than the original model from the 1970s >>> and '80s? I ask because the Pletscher I installed circa 1985 on a beater >>> city Sprite to carry 2 Wald basket panniers was the most flexible rack I've >>> ever used; I recall literally being unable to ride a straight line with >>> heavily loaded rear baskets. Fortunately my return trip from the grocery >>> store was only about 1/2 mile. >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 5:05 PM 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch < >>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Here is a picture of 3 bikes haul'in the goods in the PA Dutch country >>>> on Sat 11/19/22. This is the back of the Goods store in East Earl PA on >>>> Rt >>>> 23 near Rt 322. People were out doing the Thanksgiving shopping and some >>>> Balck Friday shopping. >>>> >>>> The bikes are used for more utilitarian tasks up there with young, >>>> middle and older age riders using them for day to day tasks. >>>> >>>> The near one has a trailer with items from the Shady Maple supermarket >>>> (blue bag) and the gentleman riding it is just about to add a bag of items >>>> from Goods. >>>> >>>> The second has a Pletchser with a working Mousetrap holding a wooden >>>> cargo box. Note hoe the box has a nice cut out accommodating both the >>>> Mousetrap bend and his/her hand. >>>> >>>> The far on has a Pletchser Mousetrap holding the standard cardboard box >>>> with the trap deforming the box top. >>>> >>>> All 3 use kickstands. The near one is a Fuji and the other 2 are >>>> Jamis. Those folks must be in great shape! Great to see a Pletchser >>>> MouseTrap being used for what they designed it for and doing a good job. >>>> >>>> >>>> John Hawrylak >>>> Woodstown NJ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7e206e56-121e-4c62-87f1-a6e7e9917b71n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7e206e56-121e-4c62-87f1-a6e7e9917b71n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/63a8fea7-f5fb-4a9d-865f-b2f332359d2dn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/63a8fea7-f5fb-4a9d-865f-b2f332359d2dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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