Groovy, Eric! That's on the island of Shikoku. Have you lived in Japan? Very cool article on the Zero Waste facility. I was, however, nonplussed by this statement: "Kamikatsu's main industry was once forestry, but all that remains of this today are neglected cedar forests." The many cedar forests that I spent time in while in Japan were anything but. I do believe the Japanese have the wisdom to understand the difference between humans managing a forest and letting a forest manage itself. In addition, the Japanese can see clearly beyond the idea of wood being the singular resource of a forest. Shinrin-yoku, forest bathing, is a deep, active cultural practice. Another of my favorite things about living in Japan.
Cheers, John On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 9:36:29 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > I might have shared this somewhere else on the forum a while back but I'm > also reminded of the stunning recycling center in Kamikatsu that's built > mostly from recycled materials. More info and pictures here. > <https://www.dezeen.com/2021/11/09/kamikatsu-zero-waste-center-hiroshi-nakamura-architecture/> > > [image: > kamikatsu-zero-waste-center-hiroshi-nakamura-architecture_dezeen_2364_col_0-1704x1136.jpg] > > [image: > kamikatsu-zero-waste-center-hiroshi-nakamura-architecture-1704x1136.jpg] > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:34:36 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote: > >> I love rescuing stuff from the trash, my friend Gil and I have done this >> for years and we are often subtly one-upping one another with stuff we find >> in dumpsters and on the side of the road. Among my best finds: a fully >> functional, late-model Kitchen Aid stand mixer, a Lightspeed carbon tri >> bike with full Dura Ace and a quilted Ciocc with Campy Athena. Also found a >> new Japanese hand hoe in a dumpster, not of great value but beautiful and >> useful (I was working on an organic farm at the time). >> >> This poster detailing waste disposal in Osaka, Japan is like a fentanyl >> patch laid gently on my nucleus accumbens. They really take great care. >> >> [image: DKMBRmcXcAAIBhz.jpg] >> >> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:41:52 AM UTC-5 rus...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> I’ve used a 2016 Campagnolo Chorus FD with 46 x 34 and 46 x 30 doubles >>> with good results. The Chorus derailleur was originally from a 52 x 39 >>> setup. >>> >>> Russell Duncan >>> Leverett, MA USA >>> >>> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 4:46:03 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote: >>> >>>> For my Rivendell Custom, I use a Dura-Ace FD-7800 (31.8 integral clamp, >>>> 10-speed era) with my RenéHERSE 42-26 double. Chain is a Dura-Ace 11 >>>> speed >>>> (ultrasonically cleaned and waxed), cassette is a Dura-Ace 12-28 11 speed. >>>> Rear derailleur is a Dura-Ace RD-7700GS (large pulleys, 9-speed era). >>>> Friction shifted with frame mounted Silver-1 shifters. Everything works >>>> the >>>> way it should. 25 to 95 gear range. Basically a 1x system (40 to 95) on >>>> the >>>> 42T with a 26T granny bail-out. >>>> >>>> Laing >>>> >>>> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 2:48:03 PM UTC-5 David Hallerman wrote: >>>> >>>>> That’s much like how I’ve found Dura-Ace FDs of that era, the >>>>> originally 8-speed 7410 in specific, are perfect for the 48/34 compact >>>>> doubles I run on many of my bikes. >>>>> >>>>> I wonder how those late 20th century FDs would do with subcompact >>>>> doubles, like a 46/30. Has anyone here done that? >>>>> >>>>> Dave, who has his first 46/30 crankset incoming which sparks curiosity >>>>> +++++ >>>>> Hudson Valley NY >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 9:42 PM Mike Godwin <spoke...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> John discovered the older FD magic. All my bikes have older (late >>>>>> 20th century) generally two-ring FDs - Campy, Suntour, Shimano - >>>>>> shifting >>>>>> triples. I really like the aesthetics and function. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike "scrounging the bike kitchen for gems" Godwin SLO CA >>>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 5:48:30 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Aaron and Scott, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll snap a photo when I'm out and about tomorrow. The Atlantis is a >>>>>>> 2005 (I believe)Toyo Scott, regarding the FD, it was a braze-on mounted >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> so I bought an 28.6 clamp for it. No fussing around with it and it >>>>>>> shifts >>>>>>> beautifully. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 5:34:58 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wanna see a full size pic, too, please! Toyo or MIT? Judging by >>>>>>>> space between rear wheel and seat tube, probably Toyo? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Such a handsome FD! Clamp size is 31.8? No fussing to mount it? I'm >>>>>>>> building a new 62cm MIT Atlantis right now and am on hunt for a FD for >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> Think I just found some direction... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing and teaching me about Gomi. Sometimes small >>>>>>>> reminders are the best. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Aaron in El Paso >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> p.s. a full size photo of the Atlantis is now expected. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2022, at 17:34, John Rinker <jwri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One interesting thing about living in Japan is the gomi. 'Gomi' is >>>>>>>> any trash/refuse/garbage that is bigger than a toaster oven and must >>>>>>>> have a >>>>>>>> special tag in order for it to be disposed of. Japan's recycling >>>>>>>> system is >>>>>>>> complicated but effective, and the gomi is just one aspect of it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It never ceased to amaze me what can be found in the gomi- >>>>>>>> beautiful furniture, golf clubs, karaoke machines, and, yes, bicycles. >>>>>>>> While technically one is not supposed to take things from the gomi, >>>>>>>> during >>>>>>>> my two years in Japan, I couldn't resist pulling a number of bicycles >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> the gomi including a brand new Tern folding bicycle and a 1990s-era >>>>>>>> Bottechia racing bicycle, handmade with Columbus tubing and a Dura-ace >>>>>>>> groupset. The Bottechia looked as though it had been ridden less than >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> dozen times, and the Dura-Ace (7400) is in mint condition. The >>>>>>>> Japanese >>>>>>>> tend to treat their goods with care and respect, and the Bottechia was >>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>> exception. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Alas, the frame was far too small for me and Italian racing bikes, >>>>>>>> while very beautiful don't really fit my style of riding. Before >>>>>>>> offering >>>>>>>> up the frame to a local shop, I did strip all the parts and was left >>>>>>>> with a >>>>>>>> beautiful group of Shimano's finest road mech. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fast forward to last week, when I swapped out the crankset on my >>>>>>>> Atlantis and found that the beautiful Dura-Ace front derailleur works >>>>>>>> beautifully with the Rene Herse triple...even in the snow. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I miss so much about living in Japan, to my mind the most civilized >>>>>>>> of countries, but I'm delighted to know that as I pedal about >>>>>>>> exploring the >>>>>>>> mountains of BC I'll have a bit of Japanese trash adorning my bicycle. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, John >>>>>>>> [image: IMG_0058.jpeg] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/00531363-a76b-49d0-aee0-cab18b93fe34n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/00531363-a76b-49d0-aee0-cab18b93fe34n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: IMG_0058.jpeg] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/4D9C6EDF-3911-4987-A970-2843FE499BA2%40gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/4D9C6EDF-3911-4987-A970-2843FE499BA2%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/762d6b68-852c-4cb1-ad58-2d85ab27a5ffn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/762d6b68-852c-4cb1-ad58-2d85ab27a5ffn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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