| This is the story that I’ve heard. And while I do love the name and woolly mammoth iconography, it does feel like a missed opportunity when Oliphaunt was right there. (But maybe they had already gotten a cease-and-desist from the Tolkien estate at that point?)
In any case, it’s great seeing the Hunqapillar get some attention — I sure love mine. And I also appreciate the link to John Watson’s build on the Radavist. He mentions wanting to track down an 8-speed specific White Industries freehub. So here’s where I confess to some gaps in my knowledge — are current generation rear hubs incompatible with 8-speed cassettes? I had assumed that the freehub dimensions were constant, and that the cassettes and chains just got narrower with more gears. But evidently that’s not the case, presumably leading to a rear wheel with more dish? I like my 3x8 setup quite well for the Hunq, and am wondering whether I need to be on the lookout for spares if there’s no way to retrofit contemporary components.
Jay Lonner Bellingham, WA Sent from my Atari 400 On Dec 11, 2022, at 11:52 AM, J J <junes1ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
Re: the mailbox — I believe Grant was on a tour and saw the name “Hunkapiller” on a mailbox. Forgot where. He changed the spelling for the bike. On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:17:05 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
Ricky — The mailbox thing is new to me, interested to learn more if others have insight.
Laing — That is a beauty of a Bombadil and I really appreciate you have the screenshot from when you bought it. That's the kind of receipt I like. Please keep us updated on how it handles with the very wide drops and other changes. Congrats on your traverse of FL on that bike!
Brian — Thanks for the info! Definitely appropriate for the thread, I'd say. I'm surprised Sackville is a reference to LOTR, never would have guessed it. I think I'd heard of the rest, but only through reading about Riv over the years. And I was aware of Rivendell Mountain Works as a point of inspiration as well.
Thanks, Eliot! I've got two videos in the hopper. Apologies for the erratic upload schedule. I enjoy documenting my projects but I don't want to be a full-time YouTube person. Eric when are we going to see another YouTube video ? I really admire your style and have even learned a few tricks from your excellent build videos. Sorry for the tangent.
Eric, I hope this doesn't derail your thread too much, but I though I might try to address your Tolkien question. As I'm sure many of us here are, I've long been a big Tolkien nerd, but I wouldn't consider myself an expert... I'd say I'm pretty well-versed, though! I know Grant has always maintained that he named Rivendell BW out of his appreciation for the old Rivendell Mountain Works catalogs (no doubt a main inspiration for the Riv Readers and model catalogs / brochures). But then, he also has taken quite a few liberties with the Tolkien property names and references. Here's a short list of all the ones I can think of, but there may be others:
Rivendell: the magical refuge of the Elves in Middle Earth, where the Fellowship of the Ring is formed
Baggins: the surname of our Hobbit heroes, Bilbo and Frodo Sackville: a an affluent branch of the Baggins family in the Shire, the Sackville-Bagginses Bombadil: as in Tom Bombadil, a jovial character who helps the Hobbits out of a tight spot along their journey. He may be the oldest being in Middle Earth. Infamously NOT mentioned in the film adaptations, to the dismay of many fans. Legolas: a Woodland Elf who was a member of the Fellowship of the Ring Quickbeam: a young Ent who basically babysat and distracted Hobbits Merry and Pippin during the Ent Moot
Can anyone think of any obvious ones I'm missing here?
On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 10:50:45 AM UTC-5 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
The Hunqapillar is named after a mailbox in Indiana, but the spelling is different. Also, it might not be Indiana.
On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 9:31:34 AM UTC-6 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
Thank you for starting this thread, Eric. Stoked to learn more about these two models.
It seems the Bombadil and Hunqapillar frames are beloved. They're stout, beautiful, and sometimes have intricate additional tubes and lugs. While I've done a lot of reading about Rivendell I was a bit unclear on the origins and intended uses of these frames.
I wanted to start a thread where we could share and dump info about these bikes along with pictures of builds.
Joe and Jim were helpful in laying out a bit of background in another thread, there's some great info there.
The first mention I can find of the Bombadil is in RR 41, sometime in 2009. Excerpted pages attached. As a few members might recall I am very into raw frames with brass spilling out of the lugs! I know that many Bombadil owners have had their frames repainted like Jason Fuller, whose absolute stunner shows up here from time to time. By the way, the picture below is one of my very favorite Rivendell images.
There's also the butter-banana Bombadil that recently sold on eBay. I believe that one was purchased by John Watson of the Radavist (and he's got a Hunq) so we might see some nice pics of that bike sometime soon.
Are both of these frame names borrowing from Tolkien? I understand RBW had to stop using Tolkien names.
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