Thanks for these, Max, John's build and pics are simply delicious. Very sweet bike and poster/postcard combo, Jennings! I'd rock a Hunq tee shirt with that design. On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:22:33 PM UTC-5 Jennings wrote:
> Ill play along. I've had my 58 Hunqapillar since 2010. Its my absolute > favorite bike even over the Trek 720 and the Specialized expedition i > owned. I even have the poster and postcard Rivendell was selling when > these first came out. > > On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:24:37 AM UTC-5 maxcr wrote: > >> For those not on instagram, looks the build is coming together for John's >> yellow Bomba - the color looks amazing on these photos: >> >> [image: IMG_9687.jpeg] [image: IMG_9688.jpeg] >> Max >> On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 7:41:46 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote: >> >>> Lovely bike, Vern! What kind of drop bars are those? >>> >>> On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 5:30:49 PM UTC-7 plumber...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Purchased from a member of the group in July but very recently built >>>> Bombadil. Excited for many more miles of dirt in the new year! >>>> >>>> [image: IMG_9161.jpg] >>>> >>>> Happy holidays, >>>> Vern in San Francisco >>>> On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 12:41:47 PM UTC-8 foolis...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Presumedly, it might of sounded like I didn't like my Bombadil. I >>>>> associate "overbuilt" with "wellmade" and absolutely love my bike. It >>>>> keeps >>>>> up with a casual road ride no problem. Impressive! It always felt like a >>>>> swiss army knife. It's really great hearing all of the Bomba and Hunq >>>>> info >>>>> flowing. They have always been the most interesting of the Riv line to >>>>> me. >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 9:34:53 AM UTC-6 Marc Irwin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That is indeed my Hunq and it is a Waterford frame. I pre-ordered >>>>>> from the first Taiwan production but Riv screwed up and sold mine to >>>>>> somebody else. When they realized their mistake they offered the >>>>>> remaining >>>>>> 54CM from the first Waterford run. My understanding is that the more >>>>>> ornate lugs require more handwork during the brazing process and were >>>>>> too >>>>>> difficult for the factory to produce. My Taiwan built Sam has the less >>>>>> ornate rounded lugs like the ones on the Taiwan Hunqs. Everything >>>>>> people >>>>>> say about the ride is true. The Hunq is a >>>>>> goanywheredoanythingforbigboysbike, but, despite feeling heavy (my frame >>>>>> and fork registered 10lbs on the bathroom scale) it rides surprisingly >>>>>> quickly. I've ridden with 15-16mph groups at club and charity rides >>>>>> with >>>>>> no problem and could probably keep up with faster if I cared enough. >>>>>> [image: IMG_1831.JPG] >>>>>> Here's where it's taken me so far. >>>>>> >>>>>> Marc >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 4:26:48 PM UTC-5 Chris L wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I first discovered RBW in August of 2011 and Grant said he would >>>>>>> only recommend the Hunqapillar or Bombadil for someone my weight. In >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> following eight years it took for me to finally buy one, I amassed >>>>>>> quite a >>>>>>> collection of Hunqapillar photos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One thing I've noticed is that some of the very earliest >>>>>>> Hunqapillars have mismatched headtube lugs. The top has points on the >>>>>>> sides but on some bikes, the bottom headtube lug is rounded, with no >>>>>>> point >>>>>>> on some bikes and pointed on the sides of others. I'm wondering if >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> factor differentiates Tawain Hunqapillars from the MUSA/Japan (of Toyo >>>>>>> made >>>>>>> some, it seems like they did) ones. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The 54cm proto-type had the rounded side on the bottom lug. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: 4985768915_03bc844911_o.jpg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This kidney bean Hunq also has the smooth sided bottom lug >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: 005 (2).jpg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe this is Marc's bike and I think he has stated it was a >>>>>>> Waterford frame and it has the point on the side of the bottom lug >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: 006.jpg] >>>>>>> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 8:02:36 AM UTC-6 >>>>>>> captaincon...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was deleting old file from my phone and found the *Original >>>>>>>> Hunqabook" PDF. I'm not sure if it was shared already, but here you >>>>>>>> go. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:04:20 PM UTC-6 Cyclofiend Jim >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes. My recollection was that Bomba was coming out when it was >>>>>>>>> "suggested" that those names were IP, so IIRC it was the last of the >>>>>>>>> Tolkien names. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Grant shared the Hunkapiller mailbox story with me verbally during >>>>>>>>> a visit to RBWHQ&L. It was the same as he later wrote in one of the >>>>>>>>> Readers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The first Hunqapillar I ever saw came out with grey frame and >>>>>>>>> orange. >>>>>>>>> I had some images over on my (goodness gracious it's still THERE?) >>>>>>>>> Flickr feed - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=93409214%40N00&view_all=1&text=hunqapillar >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There were both TTT (Twin Top Tube) and Diagatube frames when I >>>>>>>>> visited. IIRC, Grant said it was going to be diagatube only in >>>>>>>>> production - >>>>>>>>> this image shows an unpainted model - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/4713714578/in/photolist-8bx281-8btKnk-8btKpk-7NNCR6-cqiLDG-7NVfpo-oiwPmQ-7NVgrq-7NVfuj-7NVgwQ-7NRh2g-7NRhHe-7NRgWB >>>>>>>>> (taken mid-2010) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For completeness - here's a tall Bomba with the TTT and that >>>>>>>>> gorgeous kidney bean red - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/4207455573/in/photolist-7pNiXt-7pSegm-7pNiYF >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> J >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:41:43 PM UTC-8 Jay Lonner wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is the story that I’ve heard. And while I do love the name >>>>>>>>>> and woolly mammoth iconography, it does feel like a missed >>>>>>>>>> opportunity when >>>>>>>>>> Oliphaunt was right there. (But maybe they had already gotten a >>>>>>>>>> cease-and-desist from the Tolkien estate at that point?) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In any case, it’s great seeing the Hunqapillar get some attention >>>>>>>>>> — I sure love mine. And I also appreciate the link to John Watson’s >>>>>>>>>> build >>>>>>>>>> on the Radavist. He mentions wanting to track down an 8-speed >>>>>>>>>> specific >>>>>>>>>> White Industries freehub. So here’s where I confess to some gaps in >>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>> knowledge — are current generation rear hubs incompatible with >>>>>>>>>> 8-speed >>>>>>>>>> cassettes? I had assumed that the freehub dimensions were constant, >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> that the cassettes and chains just got narrower with more gears. But >>>>>>>>>> evidently that’s not the case, presumably leading to a rear wheel >>>>>>>>>> with more >>>>>>>>>> dish? I like my 3x8 setup quite well for the Hunq, and am wondering >>>>>>>>>> whether >>>>>>>>>> I need to be on the lookout for spares if there’s no way to retrofit >>>>>>>>>> contemporary components. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jay Lonner >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bellingham, WA >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Atari 400 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2022, at 11:52 AM, J J <junes...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Re: the mailbox — I believe Grant was on a tour and saw the name >>>>>>>>>> “Hunkapiller” on a mailbox. Forgot where. He changed the spelling >>>>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>>>> bike. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:17:05 PM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>> eric...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ricky — The mailbox thing is new to me, interested to learn more >>>>>>>>>>> if others have insight. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Laing — That is a beauty of a Bombadil and I really appreciate >>>>>>>>>>> you have the screenshot from when you bought it. That's the kind of >>>>>>>>>>> receipt >>>>>>>>>>> I like. Please keep us updated on how it handles with the very wide >>>>>>>>>>> drops >>>>>>>>>>> and other changes. Congrats on your traverse of FL on that bike! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Brian — Thanks for the info! Definitely appropriate for the >>>>>>>>>>> thread, I'd say. I'm surprised Sackville is a reference to LOTR, >>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>> would have guessed it. I think I'd heard of the rest, but only >>>>>>>>>>> through >>>>>>>>>>> reading about Riv over the years. And I was aware of Rivendell >>>>>>>>>>> Mountain >>>>>>>>>>> Works as a point of inspiration as well. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Eliot! I've got two videos in the hopper. Apologies for >>>>>>>>>>> the erratic upload schedule. I enjoy documenting my projects but I >>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>> want to be a full-time YouTube person. >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 12:39:36 PM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>> eliot...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Eric when are we going to see another YouTube video ? I really >>>>>>>>>>>> admire your style and have even learned a few tricks from your >>>>>>>>>>>> excellent >>>>>>>>>>>> build videos. Sorry for the tangent. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 8:42:59 AM UTC-8 >>>>>>>>>>>> brok...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric, I hope this doesn't derail your thread too much, but I >>>>>>>>>>>>> though I might try to address your Tolkien question. As I'm sure >>>>>>>>>>>>> many of us >>>>>>>>>>>>> here are, I've long been a big Tolkien nerd, but I wouldn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> consider myself >>>>>>>>>>>>> an expert... I'd say I'm pretty well-versed, though! >>>>>>>>>>>>> I know Grant has always maintained that he named Rivendell BW >>>>>>>>>>>>> out of his appreciation for the old Rivendell Mountain Works >>>>>>>>>>>>> catalogs (no >>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt a main inspiration for the Riv Readers and model catalogs / >>>>>>>>>>>>> brochures). But then, he also has taken quite a few liberties >>>>>>>>>>>>> with the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tolkien property names and references. Here's a short list of all >>>>>>>>>>>>> the ones >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can think of, but there may be others: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell: the magical refuge of the Elves in Middle Earth, >>>>>>>>>>>>> where the Fellowship of the Ring is formed >>>>>>>>>>>>> Baggins: the surname of our Hobbit heroes, Bilbo and Frodo >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sackville: a an affluent branch of the Baggins family in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shire, the Sackville-Bagginses >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bombadil: as in Tom Bombadil, a jovial character who helps the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hobbits out of a tight spot along their journey. He may be the >>>>>>>>>>>>> oldest being >>>>>>>>>>>>> in Middle Earth. Infamously NOT mentioned in the film >>>>>>>>>>>>> adaptations, to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> dismay of many fans. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Legolas: a Woodland Elf who was a member of the Fellowship of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Ring >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quickbeam: a young Ent who basically babysat and distracted >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hobbits Merry and Pippin during the Ent Moot >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone think of any obvious ones I'm missing here? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 10:50:45 AM UTC-5 E. Ricky >>>>>>>>>>>>> Creek wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Hunqapillar is named after a mailbox in Indiana, but the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spelling is different. Also, it might not be Indiana. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 9:31:34 AM UTC-6 Luke >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hendrickson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for starting this thread, Eric. Stoked to learn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more about these two models. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 7:16:08 AM UTC-8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eric...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems the Bombadil and Hunqapillar frames are beloved. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're stout, beautiful, and sometimes have intricate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional tubes and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lugs. While I've done a lot of reading about Rivendell I was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit unclear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the origins and intended uses of these frames. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to start a thread where we could share and dump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info about these bikes along with pictures of builds. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe and Jim were helpful in laying out a bit of background >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in another thread >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/mkxv02ciCM4/m/KqWZOIMQAwAJ>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some great info there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original Hunqapillar catalog is up here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://notfine.com/rivendell/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Hunqapillar.pdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first mention I can find of the Bombadil is in RR 41, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometime in 2009. Excerpted pages attached. As a few members >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might recall I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am very into raw frames with brass spilling out of the lugs! I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many Bombadil owners have had their frames repainted like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Fuller, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whose absolute stunner shows up here from time to time. By the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picture below is one of my very favorite Rivendell images. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Jason Bombadil green.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's also the butter-banana Bombadil that recently sold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on eBay. I believe that one was purchased by John Watson of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Radavist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (and he's got a Hunq) so we might see some nice pics of that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike sometime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: s-l1600-2.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And speaking of, here's John's Hunqapillar, more images >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and write-up here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://theradavist.com/rivendell-hunqapillar-review/>. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Johns-Rivendell-Hunqapillar-29er-Klunker-76.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are both of these frame names borrowing from Tolkien? 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