Joe I'm not super clear on what you are asking me to guess about regarding the Goodrich. I don't know anything about Goodrich models, or if there is such a thing as a Goodrich model. If they are all custom, then my guess is that the bike pictured with Goodrich decals is in fact a frame made by Curt Goodrich. The lugs look "early Rivish", and I know Curt Goodrich made a lot of the early custom Rivendells. Maybe it's an early Riv custom, Curt made it, and then the buyer wanted Curt to repaint it, with Goodrich decals.
It doesn't look like a cyclocross race bike to me, like a Legolas, for example. It looks more like a sport-touring rig, like maybe it's trying to be a lighter version of an early 2000s 700c Atlantis. BL in EC On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 12:57:56 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: > What's your guess on the Goodrich, Bill? Cyclocrosser? > > On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 12:49:11 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote: > >> There is definitely some detective work to be done on these bikes, since >> the seller doesn't seem to know anything about them. >> >> The Rambouillet looks off, but in a way I think I can guess at >> explaining. Ram's were by definition 700c bikes with medium reach brakes >> and fit 700x32 tires or thereabouts. This one has very chubby tires and >> long reach brakes with pads at the very ends of the slots. That makes me >> suspect that is a 650B converted Ram. Rams came in even cm sizes, and that >> head tube height makes me guess it is maybe a 62cm. It's maybe a 60cm, >> Almost definitely not a 58. >> >> Assuming the orange Rivendell Custom is around the same size, those are >> probably 26" wheels. That's my guess >> >> The dark grey cantilever Hilsen is sort of off-menu, because it has >> cantilevers. The wheels also look smallish. My guess is that was actually >> the largest Canti-'Luki (Saluki), which would have been a 62cm. Then, when >> the owner wanted a repaint, the Saluki decals weren't around, but Hilsen >> ones were. The Saluki became the 650B Hilsen around 2010. >> >> Those are lovely lovely bikes. >> >> Bill Lindsay >> El Cerrito, CA >> >> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 9:42:52 AM UTC-8 mmille...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes >>> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/591659724221291/permalink/5766806640039881/> >>> >>> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. >>> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all >>> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the >>> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely >>> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be >>> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I >>> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the >>> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. >>> Thanks, everyone. >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a7d69155-aeb1-4150-8511-2db4183a4b99n%40googlegroups.com.