Jason – I’m switching to the Monarch with the added platform this week. 
I’ve been running Suntour XCii pedals while wearing support free Vans 
tennis shoes and my biggest gripe has been my feet kinda hanging off. I 
have not had any discomfort, even with 80 mile rides. I believe my issues 
mostly stem from having large feet (15.5) and always wanting for more of a 
platform. 

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:31:24 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've found that the stiffer the soles of the shoes, the better pedaling 
> feels and if the shoe is too flexy you'll get hotspots or foot pain. So I 
> don't think switching pedals will help but switching shoes might.
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 9:55 AM Jason Fuller <jtf.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My instinct is that has a lot more to do with the shoes, ie not well 
>> supported arches maybe?  I found that long pedals like the MKS Monarch or 
>> the Bubbly were a gamechanger for foot comfort vs. shorter flat pedals, but 
>> probably because I am always riding in shoes that are objectively too soft 
>> for long distance riding. The Bubbly isn't the grippiest pedal, because it 
>> has no pins, but it's very grippy for a non-pinned and is easily the most 
>> comfortable pedal I've ridden  
>>
>> On Sunday, 26 February 2023 at 22:36:55 UTC-8 swar...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Since it seems like people here are pretty experienced with flat pedals 
>>> I'll ask a question.
>>> I ride flats all the time, but I find that on especially long rides 
>>> (100+ mi) or if I'm putting out too much power (like straining up a hill) I 
>>> start to get foot pain.
>>> Does anyone have good recommendations for flat pedals that are better on 
>>> the feet (I'm a US 10.5 shoe size) - or advice for avoiding foot cramping 
>>> or pain?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 10:05 PM Luke Hendrickson <
>>> phendr...@paulpath.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Platforms > clipless IMO. I’ve ridden both and like less hassle and 
>>>> fewer impediments to hopping on a bike. Should you not wish to listen to a 
>>>> stranger on the Internet and wish to go full steam ahead, I suggest SPDs 
>>>> especially since, were one to break out on the road, replacement cleats or 
>>>> screws are readily available at most LBSs. Many other clipless pedal 
>>>> options are not. 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:46:09 AM UTC-8 Josiah Anderson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Ted, clipless pedals are not useful for most of the 
>>>>> riding I do. That riding consists of commuting, trail riding, long and 
>>>>> fast-ish road rides, and both paved and off-road touring. The only time I 
>>>>> still use clipless pedals is for racing (which I do just a little of); 
>>>>> platforms are much better the rest of the time. Maybe I don't care about 
>>>>> foot attachment as much as some people, considering that I'm also a 
>>>>> telemark skier, but I think having your foot solidly attached is 
>>>>> overrated. 
>>>>> I think a lot of the time people do it because they feel like they have 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> or it's what everyone else is doing, even when there's not a good reason 
>>>>> to- that was me for years before I realized how good flat pedals are. 
>>>>> Getting a nice pair of pedals helped too- I got a good deal on some thin 
>>>>> Crank Brothers platforms with good spikes and nice bearings and they made 
>>>>> me like flat pedals a lot more.
>>>>>
>>>>> That being said, if you really want to try clipless pedals, I 
>>>>> recommend Time ATACs. They're the only clipless pedals I've used for the 
>>>>> last few years after moving away from SPDs and (eewww) Look road pedals, 
>>>>> and I like them for the float and the reasonably supportive pedal body as 
>>>>> well as for their performance in muddy conditions (I do race some 
>>>>> cyclocross). SPDs work fine too though, and maybe cheaper and easier to 
>>>>> find.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josiah Anderson
>>>>> Missoula, MT
>>>>>
>>>>> Le dim. 19 févr. 2023 à 07:22, Ted Durant <tedd...@gmail.com> a 
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 9:17:48 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>>>>> trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with 
>>>>>> toe clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have 
>>>>>> thoughts about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and 
>>>>>> out of. i get indegestion looking at all the different 
>>>>>> kinds/styles/types. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, I'll be the first to say it ... don't bother! I use Crank 
>>>>>> Brothers eggbeater pedals on most of my bikes, and I'm about to put some 
>>>>>> flat pedals on one of my regulars and do a fair amount of riding without 
>>>>>> bindings to see if I really still want them. I started going down the 
>>>>>> no-binding path a while ago, but much of my riding was commuting and I 
>>>>>> actually liked bindings for being able to accelerate quickly in traffic. 
>>>>>> If 
>>>>>> I was doing any group riding, I'd still want them, and for that reason 
>>>>>> even 
>>>>>> if I ditch the eggbeaters for most of my bikes, I will still keep them 
>>>>>> on 
>>>>>> my "group ride" bike (my Riv Road). 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, I've been very happy with eggbeaters because 1) they're 
>>>>>> super easy entry and exit (as long as you replace the cleats regularly), 
>>>>>> 2) 
>>>>>> low profile cleats with lots of walkable shoe options, 3)there's no 
>>>>>> tension 
>>>>>> adjustment required and the shoe-cleat-pedal interface is secure as long 
>>>>>> as 
>>>>>> you replace the cleats regularly and use shims as needed, 4) choice of 
>>>>>> fixed or floating cleats (I prefer fixed), 5) no extra weight. You do 
>>>>>> want 
>>>>>> shoes with fairly stiff soles, because the pedal itself offers no 
>>>>>> support. 
>>>>>> On the down side, they don't have a flat/binding two-sided option, but 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> hasn't been an issue for me. I have a box full of old Shimano pedals and 
>>>>>> cleats. I could never get happy with the shoe-cleat-pedal interface, it 
>>>>>> was 
>>>>>> always too loose and wobbly or too hard to release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ted Durant
>>>>>> Milwaukee WI USA
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