My instinct is that has a lot more to do with the shoes, ie not well 
supported arches maybe?  I found that long pedals like the MKS Monarch or 
the Bubbly were a gamechanger for foot comfort vs. shorter flat pedals, but 
probably because I am always riding in shoes that are objectively too soft 
for long distance riding. The Bubbly isn't the grippiest pedal, because it 
has no pins, but it's very grippy for a non-pinned and is easily the most 
comfortable pedal I've ridden  

On Sunday, 26 February 2023 at 22:36:55 UTC-8 swar...@gmail.com wrote:

> Since it seems like people here are pretty experienced with flat pedals 
> I'll ask a question.
> I ride flats all the time, but I find that on especially long rides (100+ 
> mi) or if I'm putting out too much power (like straining up a hill) I start 
> to get foot pain.
> Does anyone have good recommendations for flat pedals that are better on 
> the feet (I'm a US 10.5 shoe size) - or advice for avoiding foot cramping 
> or pain?
>
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 10:05 PM Luke Hendrickson <phendr...@paulpath.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> Platforms > clipless IMO. I’ve ridden both and like less hassle and fewer 
>> impediments to hopping on a bike. Should you not wish to listen to a 
>> stranger on the Internet and wish to go full steam ahead, I suggest SPDs 
>> especially since, were one to break out on the road, replacement cleats or 
>> screws are readily available at most LBSs. Many other clipless pedal 
>> options are not. 
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:46:09 AM UTC-8 Josiah Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Ted, clipless pedals are not useful for most of the riding 
>>> I do. That riding consists of commuting, trail riding, long and fast-ish 
>>> road rides, and both paved and off-road touring. The only time I still use 
>>> clipless pedals is for racing (which I do just a little of); platforms are 
>>> much better the rest of the time. Maybe I don't care about foot attachment 
>>> as much as some people, considering that I'm also a telemark skier, but I 
>>> think having your foot solidly attached is overrated. I think a lot of the 
>>> time people do it because they feel like they have to or it's what everyone 
>>> else is doing, even when there's not a good reason to- that was me for 
>>> years before I realized how good flat pedals are. Getting a nice pair of 
>>> pedals helped too- I got a good deal on some thin Crank Brothers platforms 
>>> with good spikes and nice bearings and they made me like flat pedals a lot 
>>> more.
>>>
>>> That being said, if you really want to try clipless pedals, I recommend 
>>> Time ATACs. They're the only clipless pedals I've used for the last few 
>>> years after moving away from SPDs and (eewww) Look road pedals, and I like 
>>> them for the float and the reasonably supportive pedal body as well as for 
>>> their performance in muddy conditions (I do race some cyclocross). SPDs 
>>> work fine too though, and maybe cheaper and easier to find.
>>>
>>> Josiah Anderson
>>> Missoula, MT
>>>
>>> Le dim. 19 févr. 2023 à 07:22, Ted Durant <tedd...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 9:17:48 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>>> trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with 
>>>> toe clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have 
>>>> thoughts about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and 
>>>> out of. i get indegestion looking at all the different kinds/styles/types. 
>>>>
>>>> Okay, I'll be the first to say it ... don't bother! I use Crank 
>>>> Brothers eggbeater pedals on most of my bikes, and I'm about to put some 
>>>> flat pedals on one of my regulars and do a fair amount of riding without 
>>>> bindings to see if I really still want them. I started going down the 
>>>> no-binding path a while ago, but much of my riding was commuting and I 
>>>> actually liked bindings for being able to accelerate quickly in traffic. 
>>>> If 
>>>> I was doing any group riding, I'd still want them, and for that reason 
>>>> even 
>>>> if I ditch the eggbeaters for most of my bikes, I will still keep them on 
>>>> my "group ride" bike (my Riv Road). 
>>>>
>>>> That said, I've been very happy with eggbeaters because 1) they're 
>>>> super easy entry and exit (as long as you replace the cleats regularly), 
>>>> 2) 
>>>> low profile cleats with lots of walkable shoe options, 3)there's no 
>>>> tension 
>>>> adjustment required and the shoe-cleat-pedal interface is secure as long 
>>>> as 
>>>> you replace the cleats regularly and use shims as needed, 4) choice of 
>>>> fixed or floating cleats (I prefer fixed), 5) no extra weight. You do want 
>>>> shoes with fairly stiff soles, because the pedal itself offers no support. 
>>>> On the down side, they don't have a flat/binding two-sided option, but 
>>>> that 
>>>> hasn't been an issue for me. I have a box full of old Shimano pedals and 
>>>> cleats. I could never get happy with the shoe-cleat-pedal interface, it 
>>>> was 
>>>> always too loose and wobbly or too hard to release.
>>>>
>>>> Ted Durant
>>>> Milwaukee WI USA
>>>>
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