You can also do double 1x with two chainrings and skip the front derailleur 
and shifter - manually shift the front when desired (usually while stopped 
but down shifts can be done while riding easily enough using your foot to 
nudge the chain).

-Dave

On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:46:46 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I was just writing elsewhere that (so far) my 2 x 7 drivetrain I installed 
> on my Gus is like having two 1x7 drivetrain’s. That’s the magic of the 
> Silver wide/low crank with 38/24 rings. On road/gravel rides I’ve yet to 
> use the 24 & I’ve not spun out in the top end. On local quite hilly 
> singletrack I just put it on the 24 & leave it there.:)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 30, 2023, at 1:04 AM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I had a nice 1x and wanted slightly lower gears for some crazy hills 
> around here, but didn't want to lose the already relatively low top end so 
> mashed some parts together and this is the result. 
>
>
> Starting point: SRAM Rival 1 (with clutch) rear derailer, I believe the 
> largest cog this is supposed to handle is 42t. I added a Garbaruk cage and 
> pulleys and it shifts a SunRace 11-50 11-spd cassette with a SRAM Apex 
> trigger shifter. The front is a Sugino XD crank with 34t chainring. 
>
> Ok what happens if I want double rings? The manufacturer stuff says I 
> can't use a 1x derailer (I don't know why) so I thought I would cheat a 
> little and make it kind of two 1x's by adding a 30t inner ring, Shimano 
> Deore (DynaSys 10-spd double) FD and a Silver2 thumbshifter on the stem. It 
> works! 
>
> Ok it doesn't work completely fabulously yet, the downshift to the small 
> ring doesn't always take and I still have some fiddling to do but overall 
> the bike works well for me using all of the gears in the 30t plus grabbing 
> the top 2 or 3 in the 34t on occasion, and sometimes just staying in the 
> 34t like before. It's not a massive increase in gear range, I think of it 
> as an expanded 1x. 
>
> Does it make sense? I don't know, maybe this can be duplicated by ye old 
> triple drivetrains with 11-36 cassettes but I don't like triples. I like 
> this! 
>
> Joe "tried to ditch front derailers, ended up with a front derailer again" 
> Bernard
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