Joe,
I was just going with what the original owner told me as far as Riv Road, 
it may well be a custom. Luckily for me, I had a set of 559's AND a 650b 
wheelset sitting on a Bleriot frame. I tested fit prior to putting my 
requests out there. 42's fit with fenders, though I will dimple the 
chainstays for additional peace of mind, and the 559's have plenty of reach 
for this specific instance. 

I feel that I am extremely lucky in that this (road, longlow, custom?) bike 
works in ways others have not/do not. 

Best,
Eric

On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 1:10:20 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

>
> The Road Standard was the original Waterford model with short-reach 
> brakes, a Joe Starck is getting into custom territory. I could be wrong but 
> your current brakes look like the Shimano mid-reachers that Riv later put 
> on Rambouillet and Romulus. If this is accurate you may not get the results 
> you need with 559s, the reach for them works on 650B when replacing 
> short-reach for long. Going from mid-reach to way-longer-reach may put the 
> pads below the new rims. 
> On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:02:03 AM UTC-7 EGNolan wrote:
>
>> Doug,
>> The reasons I am saying it's a Road Standard vs. LongLow are no 
>> guarantee, but the original purchaser/orderer of the frame said it was a 
>> Road Standard, it has sidepulls (vs. cantilever on many LL's), chainstay 
>> length seems to match RS's and it fits a 35, but w/ no room for fenders and 
>> doesn't fit 38's (might be doable if you don't like clearance at the fork, 
>> but not doable in the rear where a 38 rubs width-wise). Maybe there was a 
>> bit of overlap in customization, I'm not sure, this was just JS's 14th bike 
>> for Riv... Happy to entertain this bike being anything, it rides 
>> wonderfully, looks beautiful and has lots of life left for a well ridden 
>> 25+ year old frame. I'm excited no matter the name!
>>
>> PS- I've found wheels & brakes and I appreciate everyone's interest in 
>> helping out!
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:43:26 PM UTC-4 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>>
>>> Are you sure this isn’t a Long Low?  I have a ‘99 JS Road Std, also with 
>>> short reach brakes (that probably maxes out between 32 and 35mm) and I 
>>> don’t recall the Road Std having any other brake option…
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 2:03 PM Jim Bronson <jim.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also have a Joe Starck Road Standard from that era, but mine has 
>>>> short reach brakes.  It barely fits a 700c 30mm under the brakes, I'm 
>>>> surprised you got a 35 in there.  Yours must have been built with more 
>>>> brake clearance than mine.   I also converted mine to 650B and have ridden 
>>>> it 10,000 kilometers of brevets that way and lots of other rides.  I'm not 
>>>> so sure you'll be able to fit a 42 in there though, the chainstay width 
>>>> and 
>>>> fork width is the limiting factor on my bike.  I'm pretty sure a 42mm 
>>>> would 
>>>> rub.  However, if you can make it work then more power to you.  I'm happy 
>>>> with my 38s and cream longboards I got from Rivendell.
>>>>
>>>> I want to also convert my Redwood, and I'm hoping it will fit 650Bx48.  
>>>> I do have the parts to do it, but you would not like the rims I have 
>>>> anyway, I'm 6'7" 300+ and I've destroyed too many lightweight rims to buy 
>>>> any more, it gets expensive.  600-650 grams is where I shoot for now.  
>>>> I've 
>>>> gotten good service from Velocity Atlas 650B, to name one in particular.  
>>>> Eventually though they all crack around the spoke bed and I have to get 
>>>> another wheel built.  I need to get back down to my pre-parenthood weight, 
>>>> more in the 240-260 range, that was easier on bike parts.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway good luck with your older Rivendell!  I love mine!
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>> Austin suburbs
>>>>
>>>

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