They are sold out of wheels, but just having had them tells me that the hub 
is geared for 650b/700c, rather than some utility or folding bike, or a 
trike. They had the hubs, so I ordered one and will build a wheel. I would 
have jumped at a finished wheel for only $40 more, though. Worth it to try 
out, even if I ended up rebuilding it.

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 10:05:13 AM UTC-4 Arthur Mayfield wrote:

> Yes Eric, it looks like it may just work. Thanks!
>
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> Does this work?
>>
>>
>> https://handsomecycles.com/products/700c-silver-rear-wheel-sturmey-archer-s-rf3-3-speed-internal-handbuilt
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023, Arthur Mayfield <ajmay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I’ve seen the charts/catalogs listing 116-120mm OLD Sturmey Archer IGHs, 
>>> but haven’t found one IRL. Soma Fab Shop listed hubs and complete IGH 
>>> (IGGY) wheels, but they’ve been OOS forever, and by email earlier this 
>>> year, they told me that was likely to remain the case for the future. 
>>> Meanwhile, I keep looking and hoping. If anyone finds a hub and isn’t 
>>> snagging it for themselves, I’d appreciate a tip😉
>>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 3:12:47 PM UTC-4 J L wrote:
>>>
>>>> Strumy Archer makes a 120 OLD version of their X-RF8 8 speed internal 
>>>> hub. It is a modern style hub with a rotary switch rather than the chain 
>>>> actuated gear shift.
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 20, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Arthur Mayfield <ajmay...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don’t know what the rear spacing is on the Quickbeams and Simple 
>>>> One, but my Frank Jones Sr has 120mm track dropouts. Finding a modern 
>>>> manufacture IGH with 120mm OLD has been a lost cause for me (and I build 
>>>> my 
>>>> own wheels). I’m sure if I pored over the possibles long and diligently 
>>>> enough, I’d run across one or a vintage AW, but it simply becomes easier 
>>>> to 
>>>> hop on another bike when I need the gears. I’d like to build a 3 spd wheel 
>>>> for my FJ, though. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One clear advantage of IGH over other multi-gear options on single 
>>>> speed bikes that I haven’t seen mentioned is the ease of riding with 
>>>> “good” 
>>>> fenders. I’ve tried using a flip-flop on my FJ with full coverage, 
>>>> aluminum 
>>>> fenders, and it’s not only a pita to do on the road (as well as 
>>>> time-consuming), but the rear fender could never be set up to fit properly 
>>>> to my standards. An IGH would make that a non-issue, at least until 
>>>> there’s 
>>>> a flat. Removing wheels from bikes rigged with chain tensioners on track 
>>>> dropouts “in the wild” for flats or other maintenance presents yet another 
>>>> nest of problems, with or without fenders. Overall, I’d be happier with a 
>>>> nice IGH. I could even get down to one bike 😝 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 2:30:13 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In defense of the old 3 speed igh, the drag, at least for the old SA 
>>>>> AW, has been tested at considerably less than that of much more complex, 
>>>>> multi-epicycle internal gear trains with 7+ gears, and my experience 
>>>>> (considerable with 2 and 3 speed SA hubs, only a little, but some with 
>>>>> modern 7+ gear hubs) bears this out very clearly. 
>>>>>
>>>>> IMO, the simplicity and low drag (and lower weight) of the simpler 
>>>>> multigear hubs makes them preferable, at least to me, to the more 
>>>>> complex, 
>>>>> draggier, and heavier ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a QR 17/19 Dingle wheel on my Riv 1999 fixed gear road custom 
>>>>> and switching from the 76" to a 68" headwind gear is very easy, but I 
>>>>> noticed that I downshifted much more often and readily with the 2 speed 
>>>>> TC 
>>>>> hub (76" direct and 66" underdrive), helpful when your direction into the 
>>>>> wind or the slope of the terrain changes often. My point is not that you 
>>>>> ("all y'all") should go get a TC -- last made in the 1940s? Mine is 1937 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> but that igh's do offer some benefits over manual "get off the bike and 
>>>>> move the chain" shifting. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I perfer the external simplicity of a simple igh over 
>>>>> multiple cogs or rings, and I prefer multiple cogs over multiple rings, 
>>>>> again for simplicity and ease of use. AAYMMAWV.
>>>>>
>>>>> I get back to that downgeared AW Schwinn: 69", 52", 39" which for a 
>>>>> $50-total-expenditure beater including new 36 t chainring + shop 
>>>>> labor (1989) proved to be very versatile indeed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 10:32 AM Drew Saunders <drew.s...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My orange Quickbeam came set up as a "2 speed" with 32-40-chainguard 
>>>>>> chainrings on a 74/110 triple (still has those) plus an 18t freewheel.
>>>>>> I immediately made it a "3 speed" with a 17/19 Dos Eno freewheel. The 
>>>>>> chain is too slack for the 32/17 to work, so only 3 options: 40/17 (99% 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> my riding), 40/19, 32/19.
>>>>>> I later added a 22T freewheel to the flip side of the flip/flop hub, 
>>>>>> which will work with the 32, but not the 40, so I have an extremely 
>>>>>> inconvenient 4-speed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I rarely take it out of the 40/17, but the headwinds this morning 
>>>>>> made me wonder if I should have used the 40/19.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All of that was much cheaper and easier than getting an internally 
>>>>>> geared hub, and if I did go for an IGH, I'd get a modern 7 or 8 speed 
>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>
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