No they don't, not if you install the wheel properly! I've put thousands and thousands of miles on fixed gear and ss drivetrains with horizontals, and for that matter with track ends without chain tensioners, and never had slippage even during 7-mile standing climbs (I'd sit every half mile or so for a few hundred years; this was when I was a young spry 50-something) or when pacing cars to 20 mph at stoplight drag races. *And* this includes wheels secured with steel internal cam QR skewers.
After all, Eddy Merckx and peers used QRs on horizontals and even they didn't report problems with axle slippage, even when sprinting or climbing a col in the 42 X 24. Hell, I've even used old fashioned wingnuts (SA proprietary ones) on horizontals and, well tightened, I experienced no axle slippage. The only time I had axle slip with horizontals was when using an allen key skewer with aluminum end caps; I once tightened one down so much that the skewer snapped, but the aluminum (serrated) caps simply didn't bite into the dropouts enough. But I can tell you from almost 30 years of experience that horizontals don't cause slippage even with QRs, let alone track nuts. On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 10:56 PM Jason Fuller <jtf.ful...@gmail.com> wrote: > Forward-facing, semi-horizontal dropouts of olde are okay for chill single > speed use but agree, not recommended for fixed gear because they tend to > slip forward during either hard acceleration or hard deceleration. With > track ends, the alignment screws prevent this. That said - I don't think > any modern Riv is going to attract very many fixed gear riders! Bottom > bracket is way too low, for starters -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgsvkN4e3xj9TvHv5na85-25B2xWEUZo%3D%3DjwC%3D5g%3DC%3Dr3w%40mail.gmail.com.