@Johnny, Keith: Thanks for the replies. I've had several wheel sets built 
by Rich at hands on wheels. I may go that route and shoot him an email. I'm 
pretty sure the wheels that I'm currently riding are from Rich. 

@Keith, Will, Garth: Not sure about the silver hubs. It'd think that if it 
were simply out of stock, it'd say "out of stock" just like half of the 
items on the Riv site. I had a silver hub on a Clem a few years ago and 
liked it just fine. I was thinking of having the rear built with a Silver 
36h but then didn't see em on the site. Odd. 



On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 4:39:37 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> There's little choice for quiet hubs so if you need 36 you may as well go 
> with Deore's. For myself having a quiet hub is non-negotiable, so I've gone 
> back to using threaded FW hubs for my future builds. The irony is that for 
> the 7 cogs I use there's a better selection of freewheels these days than 
> cassettes. Rich will build you fine wheels. I had him build a set of Alex 
> DM24 rims with Deore/Suntour hubs for me but I've never used them. I also 
> have 2 sets of Joe Young wheels. (He formerly built wheels for Riv waaaaay 
> beck when before Rich.) He's in Granbury Texas, youngwheels.com I think. 
> I still ride the first set he built in 1999, and of course, they're as 
> straight as an arrow. 
>
> There's many things that Riv has that aren't on the menu as I think 
> they're busy enough as it is and don't have much time for extensive upkeep 
> of the website in totality. The "new" 7sp cassette hub was supposedly 
> coming sometime, but as for noise I'd be surprised if it was quiet. Shimano 
> is by their own words ditching most of their road and mtb groups in favor 
> of the deathly black "Ican'tremember" line of bike parts that supposed can 
> be used for road or mtb use. Of course, it was Shimano who messed things up 
> by dividing them in the first place with different cable pulls. 
>

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