Hello Ben, maybe it would help the group if you were to post a picture or 
two of your current set up.

Thanks,
JohnS


On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:56:34 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good to know...but if my brake is mounted on the fork, I'm not sure where 
> I'd mount a fork-mounted cable hanger. 
>
> Ben
>
> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 9:50:52 AM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> This is a common complaint with headset-mounted cable hangers. Changing 
>> to a fork-mounted hanger usually alleviates the problem. Shovel Research 
>> just released a nice one: 
>> https://shovelresearch.com/fork-mounted-brake-cable-hanger
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2023, at 5:54 AM, Ben Mihovk <bjmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I just got a new set of Racer (regular) brakes for my sidepull Hillborne. 
>> Everything's set up, the brakes are grabbing/stopping, but I'm getting the 
>> most horrific noises from the pads on the front brakes. I'm using the Kool 
>> Stop Thinlines that Paul sends with the brakes. I set them up following the 
>> instructions from Paul initially (no toe-in), and the brakes squealed on 
>> the first test ride. So I toed them in and now I'm getting this awful 
>> vibration when the pads touch the rims that gets louder/more intense with 
>> speed. The vibration can be felt in the saddle...all through the frame. 
>> Truly harrowing stuff here. When I full pull the brake levers, the 
>> vibration kind of goes away but I get a light squeal (even with brakes toed 
>> in). 
>>
>> I've never set up centerpull brakes or any brakes with a straddle 
>> wire/hanger. I can't see how the problem could be from anything but how the 
>> pads are hitting. I've double checked to see that the unit is centered when 
>> I tighten it. The one goofy thing I'm noticing is that the right arm of the 
>> brake seems lower because I have the pad set higher in the arm than on the 
>> left side...but I've taken the pads off completely and recentered the brake 
>> unit and I'm getting the same results.
>>
>> I've read a little about how big frames (this is a 62cm Sam) can have the 
>> vibrations because of the length of cable and how tension varies through 
>> the pull (or something like that). I've also read that this kind issue 
>> could be from cheap/flimsly brakes...but I would hope that Paul brakes 
>> would be above suspicion here. I've also heard that if something is loose 
>> on the brake assembly, the vibrations can happen.
>>
>> However...I'm convinced it's in how I have the pads set...I don't get 
>> vibrations when the pads are not toed-in...toeing in almost seems to bring 
>> about the vibrations. 
>>
>> Any ideas anyone has would be very helpful. I'm at the end of my rope and 
>> considering removing the Pauls and going back to the squisy and not very 
>> good Tektros Riv put on it originally.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Ben in Omaha
>>
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