I am a big fan of the Racer brakes. Would hope that you would not need to dump. Set mine up many years ago, but seem to remember them not being toed in.
I would recommend going back to no toe in and first see if the squealing ceases once bedded in, before considering other changes. As far as the shudder, big bikes with 1" tubes and a canti hanger above the top of the headset, is a candidate for said shudder so a plus that you are not seeing that when not toed. On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 12:11:55 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote: > Hello Ben, maybe it would help the group if you were to post a picture or > two of your current set up. > > Thanks, > JohnS > > > On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:56:34 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Good to know...but if my brake is mounted on the fork, I'm not sure where >> I'd mount a fork-mounted cable hanger. >> >> Ben >> >> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 9:50:52 AM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote: >> >>> This is a common complaint with headset-mounted cable hangers. Changing >>> to a fork-mounted hanger usually alleviates the problem. Shovel Research >>> just released a nice one: >>> https://shovelresearch.com/fork-mounted-brake-cable-hanger >>> >>> Jay Lonner >>> Bellingham, WA >>> >>> Sent from my Atari 400 >>> >>> On Sep 8, 2023, at 5:54 AM, Ben Mihovk <bjmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Good morning, >>> >>> I just got a new set of Racer (regular) brakes for my sidepull >>> Hillborne. Everything's set up, the brakes are grabbing/stopping, but I'm >>> getting the most horrific noises from the pads on the front brakes. I'm >>> using the Kool Stop Thinlines that Paul sends with the brakes. I set them >>> up following the instructions from Paul initially (no toe-in), and the >>> brakes squealed on the first test ride. So I toed them in and now I'm >>> getting this awful vibration when the pads touch the rims that gets >>> louder/more intense with speed. The vibration can be felt in the >>> saddle...all through the frame. Truly harrowing stuff here. When I full >>> pull the brake levers, the vibration kind of goes away but I get a light >>> squeal (even with brakes toed in). >>> >>> I've never set up centerpull brakes or any brakes with a straddle >>> wire/hanger. I can't see how the problem could be from anything but how the >>> pads are hitting. I've double checked to see that the unit is centered when >>> I tighten it. The one goofy thing I'm noticing is that the right arm of the >>> brake seems lower because I have the pad set higher in the arm than on the >>> left side...but I've taken the pads off completely and recentered the brake >>> unit and I'm getting the same results. >>> >>> I've read a little about how big frames (this is a 62cm Sam) can have >>> the vibrations because of the length of cable and how tension varies >>> through the pull (or something like that). I've also read that this kind >>> issue could be from cheap/flimsly brakes...but I would hope that Paul >>> brakes would be above suspicion here. I've also heard that if something is >>> loose on the brake assembly, the vibrations can happen. >>> >>> However...I'm convinced it's in how I have the pads set...I don't get >>> vibrations when the pads are not toed-in...toeing in almost seems to bring >>> about the vibrations. >>> >>> Any ideas anyone has would be very helpful. I'm at the end of my rope >>> and considering removing the Pauls and going back to the squisy and not >>> very good Tektros Riv put on it originally. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Ben in Omaha >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/4f5914bb-774a-43b7-b5b9-c943686493e9n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/4f5914bb-774a-43b7-b5b9-c943686493e9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9db697fc-452f-461c-91ec-fb85febc7b4dn%40googlegroups.com.
