Patrick,

I too have tried the lobster-claw gloves and found them disappointing. 
Sure, there was some protection across the back from wind, but I could feel 
cold brake levers through the palm side. I put up with it for a few years, 
then used Bar Mitts, which were warm enough for me but unwieldy, especially 
on drop bars. I finally settled on these: 
http://www.ponderosacyclery.com/store/garbagechopper-mitt

They are much warmer than one might think. A wool liner glove would make 
them even warmer. Not that my fingers still don't get cold in them below, 
say, 15°F, but they are roomy and allow for warming movement. Also, the 
elastic wrist band tucks nicely into jacket sleeves and is long enough not 
to slide out easily.

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Bob Cook
On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:15:59 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> The fall style thread raises a question about keeping your hands warm in 
> very cold temperatures (for me, very cold means in the teens F). My fingers 
> are very sensitive to the cold. I've bought 2 or 3 pairs of PI Lobster 
> gloves but I've been disappointed in the fit and the warmth. 
>
> I've used Outdoor Research heavy nylon mitten sheaths with thick boiled 
> wool mittens underneath, and those were very warm indeed, but very awkward 
> to ride in, even on a fixed gear where you have to handle only the brake 
> levers.
>
> Varusteleka currently has a number of mil surplus mittens with separate 
> thumb, separate thumb and trigger finger, and separate thumb and first 2 
> fingers. The whole point of mittens is to bundle the fingers together in 
> one compartment for mutual warmth, so each added finger compartment 
> sacrifices warmth.
>
> Does anyone have thoughts on a glove or a mitten or a system that gives 
> the best mix of warmth and dexterity? And perhaps some particular gloves or 
> mittens that fit the bill?
>
> Right now, I've got hugely oversized 5-finger gloves under which I can 
> wear wool knit gloves, under which in turn I can wear silk liners, but this 
> sort of layer system is cumbersome to put on and take off.
>
> Thanks.
>
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