I believe the Craft brand lobster/trigger mitts to be rubbish. They don’t let your fingers touch, wasting valuable insulation in between what could otherwise be a cozy skin to skin situation. I love my relatively inexpensive Toko brand cross-country ski gloves, they allow my fingers to cuddle in comfort and perform their bike duties in single digit temps. I’ve got three pairs of xxl, which will hopefully buy me a decade or so of winter bliss… -Kai
On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 2:49:14 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > Thanks, all. First, should have specified: No bar mitts or Pogies as I > need something that attaches to the hands and can be used on several bikes > with drop bars. > > From extensive experimenting I'm now convinced that for the teens mittens > are best, especially as its easiest to get wool undergloves into them than > into 2-finger, 3-finger, or 5-finger gloves. (Peeve: the PIs I bought in > 2022 or 2021 have a loose flannelly lining that grabs the material of the > wool under gloves you are trying to insert, causing much cussing and > gnashing of teeth. The earlier ones, from a year or so earlier had a less > grabby lining and I wish I'd kept them, but I thought at the time they were > too big.) > > The question then is, what mittens let you brake safely and shift > precisely? > > The Garbage Choppers look very promising, and you say that you have no > problems with dt shifters or mtb trigger shifters. That's encouraging. The > Outdoor Research nylon cover + boiled wool mitten was exquisitely warm but > made it hard to brake, let alone shift -- the mitts were stiff and > slippery. But the GCs are made from leather, so presumably much more > flexible and more grippy. I have to shift bar end shifters in friction and > a Sturmey Archer trigger mounted upside-down on the bottom far end of the > right drop bar hook. > > Garth: The Kincos look like good value but I'm more skeptical about the > warmth of 5-finger gloves compared to mittens. Do you find something like > this warm into the teens? Without nitrile undergloves? (I ain't gonna add > hassle to my already hasselous winter dressing with tight-fitting rubber > gloves!) The prices are certainly good. > > I take it this would be the item to get? > https://www.amazon.com/Kinco-Lined-Grain-Pigskin-Glove/dp/B01AT2XXX4?th=1 > > Will: thanks for the Craft link. The price is good, but I think I'll look > first for mittens that are less cumbersome than the OR set I had. But link > noted for future reference. > > Patrick Moore, who will probably have a late-ish model pair of PI lobsters > for sale before too long. > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 2:15 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The fall style thread raises a question about keeping your hands warm in >> very cold temperatures (for me, very cold means in the teens F). My fingers >> are very sensitive to the cold. I've bought 2 or 3 pairs of PI Lobster >> gloves but I've been disappointed in the fit and the warmth. >> >> I've used Outdoor Research heavy nylon mitten sheaths with thick boiled >> wool mittens underneath, and those were very warm indeed, but very awkward >> to ride in, even on a fixed gear where you have to handle only the brake >> levers. >> >> Varusteleka currently has a number of mil surplus mittens with separate >> thumb, separate thumb and trigger finger, and separate thumb and first 2 >> fingers. The whole point of mittens is to bundle the fingers together in >> one compartment for mutual warmth, so each added finger compartment >> sacrifices warmth. >> >> Does anyone have thoughts on a glove or a mitten or a system that gives >> the best mix of warmth and dexterity? And perhaps some particular gloves or >> mittens that fit the bill? >> >> Right now, I've got hugely oversized 5-finger gloves under which I can >> wear wool knit gloves, under which in turn I can wear silk liners, but this >> sort of layer system is cumbersome to put on and take off. >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >> services. >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> *When thou didst not, savage,* >> >> *Know thine own meaning, but wouldst gabble like* >> >> *A thing most brutish, I endowed thy purposes* >> >> *With words that made them known.* >> > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing > services. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *When thou didst not, savage,* > > *Know thine own meaning, but wouldst gabble like* > > *A thing most brutish, I endowed thy purposes* > > *With words that made them known.* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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