So this is where I run into my issue... When I'm uphill I want an easier 
gear because I feel myself pushing hard and I feel it in my knees, and then 
on the long downhills I feel ungrounded spinning through nothing for a long 
time. So maybe a triple is the answer! On my Atlantis I find I'm riding on 
the 34 ring a lot and can do pretty much what I need to for most of my 
riding on that one... but I have not exactly been taking that one up lots 
of hills.

On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 10:32:17 AM UTC-8 Greg J wrote:

> On the topic of gearing, I recently went from a wide range double to a 
> triple and find it to be an improvement in one important way.  On the 
> double I had the total range I needed (46-30 front, 12-30 or so, generally 
> enough for most east bay hills).  But I found that I was cross-chaining on 
> the gears that I find myself in most often (those gears were mostly in the 
> big-big range or small-small range).  I converted to a triple with a 40 
> chaining up front (48-40-28), and my favorite cruising gears are now in the 
> middle of the sprocket (I’m guessing 16-20 range) on the 40t chainring. 
>
> All this to say, next time you’re on the hilly type of ride that you want 
> this new bike for (on your current bike), think about what gears you’re in 
> and how you might want to change them.  Do you want a lower low end? 
>  Higher high?  And what is the middle gear range that you find yourself 
> riding most of the time?  That could help make your decision on a triple 
> (which, as you know, is a little heavier and a little more complicated due 
> to having to shift across 3 rather than 2 chainrings, both in the mechansm 
> and in your riding habit).
>
> Greg
>
> On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 8:29:37 AM UTC-8 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> And it was a beginner ride with a avg 12 mile posted pace. I almost told 
>> him i hoped I hadn't held him back from making a personal best time on that 
>> ride!
>>
>> My other bikes are set up perfect for what I do, so no stripping! 
>> Although I might have to consider that myself to bring in money for my bike 
>> habit.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 7:45:47 AM UTC-8 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 9:25:01 AM UTC-6 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You always need a Hilly Bike... Do it!
>>>
>>> A list full of enablers :-)
>>>  
>>>
>>> I had an injury (shoulder) last year and had what I would call total 
>>> fitness depletion so I have been building back up from what feels like 
>>> zero. 
>>>
>>> I'm very sympathetic to that.  I've had a bunch of weird stuff happen 
>>> over the last few years, including a drug that started killing my red blood 
>>> cells, so I have felt like I've had to restart the engine a few times. That 
>>> might be one reason why my bikes are all set up the same way ... trying to 
>>> stick with what works in terms of positioning, while I get the other things 
>>> going.
>>>  
>>>
>>>  So while I figure that out I'm open to seeing what a lighter built up 
>>> bike can do. 
>>>
>>> Far be it for me not to be the enabler of buying another Riv, but have 
>>> you considered stripping down one of your existing bikes and trying some 
>>> nice, light tires? In my experience, tires make by far and away the biggest 
>>> difference to how a bike feels, and if you've dialed in a good riding 
>>> position, you could start there (and maybe a wider range set of gears in 
>>> back). Removing a rear rack can also remove some stiffness from the rear of 
>>> the bike, but I don't know how many people would feel that difference, 
>>> especially on a bike that's already fairly stout and on cushy tires.
>>>
>>> with exception to the guy who led the first beginner ride I went on, 
>>> looked at my bike and stated, "I hope I can ride slow enough..." 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hoo boy, just the kind of person you want leading a group ride...  one 
>>> of the reasons I stopped going on group rides.
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>>
>>

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