Thank you all for chiming in with your experiences and advice. Peter, I appreciate your thoughts about spikes in deeper snow (we've a lot of that out here!) and the need for tall knobs. Takashi, your thought on being prepared for ice under the snow is a sound one. And, Andy, I agree that while the right equipment is helpful, nothing is a substitute for careful, skilled riding in such conditions.
I'll look more closely at the 45N Kahvas and the Schwalbe Ice Spikers, but a cursory glance makes it seem the Ice Spikers have taller knobs. Takashi, your warning that these tires 'sound like the end of the world is coming' made me laugh out loud. Luckily most of my riding is on gravel roads and trails out here. Cheers, John On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 6:53:51 AM UTC-8 Takashi wrote: > I agree with Peter; if you don't know whether there's ice below snow or > not, you'd better use studded tires. > > Here's a photo from Dec 2020, near Nigorigo Pass (elev. 1700m). > My Hunqapillar equipped with Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro 29 x 2.25. > [image: DSC01244.jpg] > > They're the fattest tires that can be put on this bike (front derailleur > frequently rubbed the rear tire). > I think Waterford-built Hunq has a slightly wider clearance than mine. > > I also have Hakkapeliitta (700c x 40). > I haven's measured time, but I have a feeling that both tires are equally > slow. > Both work equally well on ice, but when there are ice, slosh, rutted ice, > rutted snow etc, it's easier to ride with fatter tires (Ice Spiker Pro). > Except when you ride on pavement; they sound like the end of the world is > coming. > > Takashi > > 2023年12月4日月曜日 23:10:47 UTC+9 fra...@gmail.com: > >> Well said, Peter. >> >> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 4:34:18 AM UTC-8 peter...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Studs do nothing for you in snow. They only add weight and are noisy on >>> pavement. Studs are only useful on ice. For snow you need tall tread >>> blocks. >>> >>> That being said, in winter we tend to get snow with ice, so winter tires >>> should have tall tread blacks and studs. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 8:34 PM John Rinker <jwri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Went for a ride in snow today and had a blast! I also slipped around a >>>> little bit as I tried to follow the packed snow of tire tracks. Got me >>>> thinking about studded tires. I've never ridden them before and know >>>> nothing about them. >>>> >>>> Do any of you fine folks with more experience in such matters than me >>>> have any recommendations for studded tires for my Hunq? >>>> >>>> Cheers, John >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/bb04fb20-5fff-4302-90e9-8a8242effe1an%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/bb04fb20-5fff-4302-90e9-8a8242effe1an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Peter White >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/630f26d2-674c-452d-91b6-48c8bf29c12an%40googlegroups.com.
