The last Charlie sightings(blue lug visit) almost has it looking like a
Homer with the Mixte like top tube. I appreciate it as someone with short
legs and a long torso, though the tire clearance and v brake/canti options
of the Sam has my vote.

- Drew


On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 01:09 Jason Fuller <jtf.ful...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah!  Despite following the Charlie development perhaps more closely than
> anyone outside Riv HQ for the longest time, it's changed a bunch and I've
> kind of lost the pulse on what makes it unique in the lineup. I used to
> think it was going to be the evolution of the Roadini but it seems to be
> something else. Regardless I am betting it'll be a quick bike as the name
> implies, perhaps with just a little more embedded versatility compared to
> the Roadini?
>
>
> On Thursday 11 January 2024 at 20:25:19 UTC-8 rockthr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I am intrigued by the Charlie Gallop. The random photos I’ve seen so far
>> make it look like a road, path, , rail trail cruiser that I need.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 10:17:49 PM UTC-6 brok...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jason, I 100% agree with you on the Joe vs. Atlantis, and the void in
>>> Riv’s lineup for a classic-styled roadish tourer (which is why I think so
>>> many folks are searching for early era Atlantis frames these days - I’m
>>> glad to have found one this past year). I’m not a fan of what the Atlantis
>>> has evolved into, but wouldn’t rule out an Appaloosa in my near future.
>>>
>>> - Brian
>>> Lex Ky
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2024, at 10:42 PM, Jason Fuller <jtf.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Word is the Sam is unchanged from previous batches, geometry-wise,
>>> which is wonderful news as Sam is perfect.  No plans to pick up anything
>>> this year, in fact it's my fourth annual "no new bikes" resolution which
>>> has failed three times thus far.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am a big fan of the new Susie's combination of specs, more stout than
>>> the old one (which was flexy to the extent it didn't make a good off-road
>>> tourer for most people) but quill stem. Dig that.
>>>
>>> I find the Appaloosa to be a lot better on the eyes than the modern
>>> Atlantis and I struggle to understand why since they're nearly the same. In
>>> my dream scenario, the Atlantis would go backwards slightly to bit a little
>>> more roadish in geometry, something similar to the Sam, but with the
>>> additional stoutness and tire clearance. I feel like this more road-focused
>>> true touring bike is currently missing in the lineup, and still falls
>>> within modern Riv sensibilities. Of course, I have no say in this, but a
>>> guy can dream.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday 11 January 2024 at 13:03:05 UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Saw this in the last email:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - February - Clems
>>>>    - March - Lugged Susies - kind of a new model
>>>>    - April - Roaduno bikes and frames - new model
>>>>    - May - Sam Hillbornes
>>>>    - June - Appaloosas
>>>>    - July - Platypus bikes and frames
>>>>    - August - Charlie Gallop, nu model, bikes and frames, more info
>>>>    later
>>>>    - September - Roadini
>>>>
>>>> Been waiting to pick up a Sam for a loooong time. Anyone else have
>>>> plans to pick up a new frame in 2024?
>>>>
>>>> Also, Looks like the foreboding about the Atlantis going into
>>>> retirement is holding true with more appaloosas coming in the summer.
>>>> Anyone out there still pining for that turquoise dream?
>>>>
>>>> - Drew
>>>>
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