Yes&No While I don't believe the Surly Ultra New hubs lack of a quoted weight limit means they are unlimited, I do believe it implies that any reasonable weights are not a problem. Whereas the Phil ones have a limit specified.
If a company tells me there is a weight limit, I'm inclined to agree/obey as that probably exists for a reason. If a company specifies no weight limit, I'm inclined to think there is a weight limit, but it's probably not an issue for most use cases. Especially Surly products that I feel probably get a lot more abuse than some other companies products. As a rider that is beyond the combined weight limit of the Phil hubs, I won't buy them any time soon and will stick with the Surly's. I should keep an eye on the Phil ones tho as I believe the weight limit use to be 250lbs and has changed, and possibility in the future could go up I hope. I was curious what something like the Surly Big Dummy used for hubs, since they have a combined bike/cargo/rider rating of 400+lbs. But it doesn't appear Surly is using Surly hubs on any of their complete bikes anymore. I assume this is a WTB assimilation/price/brand degradation issue. --ben in KC On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:12 AM Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do you interpret the absence of a weight rating on the Surly Ultra New to > mean it's unlimited, and therefore stronger/more reliable than the Phil? > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 8:18:47 AM UTC-8 Benjamin Kelley wrote: > >> One big difference(at least for me) other than the price between the Phil >> and the Surly Ultra New Hubs, is the loaded bike+rider weight rating. >> Phil says 280lb/127kg for their Classic. >> Surly unspecified weight on all their hubs. >> >> I personally prefer the fixing bolt to the QR. Less stuff for people to >> fiddle with on your bike when its locked up. >> I've replaced pretty much ever QR skewer with a bolt skewer anyways, and >> I really appreciate the Surly's being threaded for bolts. >> >> --ben in KC >> >> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:01 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Per their site (https://surlybikes.com/parts/ultra_new_hubs) Surly >>> offers their "Ultra New Hub" in 135 mm OL in both rim brake and disc rotor >>> models, and in 120 mm and 130 mm in a rim brake model. >>> >>> I expect that this hub is very like their earlier one -- I bought a >>> couple, the first 18 years ago and used them well -- and they are very nice >>> hubs; practically speaking they work as well and last as long as but cost >>> far less than my Phils. >>> >>> Apparently the shells are the same, and here's the difference. I did >>> have my old ones converted to hollow axles. >>> >>> Ultra New hubs use hollow axles of our own design mated to threadin >>> wheel fixing bolts, as opposed to the nutted axles of our previous hubs. >>> Hollow axles make conversion to quick release super easy (remove bolts, >>> insert QR skewer, install wheel into frame or fork, ride). All Ultra New >>> hubs come with fixing bolts, but all are QR compatible without axle >>> conversion or any other extra crap. Neato. The axles are made of CroMoly >>> steel, while the fixing bolts are 10.9 stainless steel (i.e. high grade) >>> for corrosion resistance, high strength, and good looks, and the bolts >>> tighten and loosen with a 6mm hex wrench. >>> >>> I highly recommend a QR skewer -- strong steal internal cam, of course. >>> >>> >>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote: >>>> >>>>> ... BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. 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