Just wanted to pop in and say that if you're an eBay whiz and patient you can find rapid risers for not too much money. I've found two of the very nice Nexave T400s, both new, never used, for less than $30 each. There was a seller on eBay sometime in 2023 who listed a bunch of the T400s and another model of the Nexave for $25-$30 each, they were all new-old-stock.
That said the XTR stuff always seems to run on the expensive side, rapid rise or otherwise. The LX and XT rapid risers are out there and a little cheaper. Another tip: if you can learn to visually ID a low-normal cage sometimes you can find derailers that are not listed as rapid rise by the seller and snag them for not as much money. Definitely agree with Johnny and Bill that Riv riders and readers and board members *and* Rivendell employees have been driving demand and therefore price. If Rivendell releases their own version and it lands in the $200 range I don't see that cooling the secondary market. On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 10:15:13 PM UTC-4 chintan...@gmail.com wrote: > Another question - from a couple of reviews here people seem indifference > of the performance between low vs high normal. But online elsewhwre, there > seems to be strong dislike for low normal - why is that? > > For example - disraeligears.co.uk writes for the xt m760 > > "The Shimano Deore XT (M760) is my absolutely least favourite Deore XT > variant. It has cheap (rust prone) detailing, unnecessary styling and, > worst of all, it’s low normal. not your obvious choice for slogging your > way through the mud and grime of a British winter. Bring back stainless > steel small parts, polished finishes and top normal operating logic." > > On Wed, 20 Mar, 2024, 5:07 am John Dewey, <john...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> And the Rivendell ‘fan base’ is a subset of another and another so as to >> be mostly inconsequential. We do count, however and a few brave souls do >> sort-of OK serving us. >> >> Nevertheless, most of us (even here in RBW’s backyard) seldom cross paths >> with cyclists with whom we have anything in common other than two wheels. >> We’re already a bit abnormal and ‘low-normal’ makes us even more so. >> >> Jock (and his fleet of abnormal low-normals) >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 9:41 AM Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I have to think that most of the market for these is from the Rivendell >>> fan base. I don't hear any other bike group talking about them at all. >>> Because of that I kind of think IF Riv ends up bringing their new one to >>> market the used scene will come WAY down. Just a theory. I really hope that >>> I can test the theory (because they successfully release it) >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 12:14:10 PM UTC-4 chintan...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you all for the replies :) Now that I know of the RR, every time >>>> I am on an uphill and I have to push the gear to climb higher on the >>>> cassette I feel some justification for having a "low-normal" derailleur. >>>> >>>> Thanks also for clarifying that any of these will work well. >>>> >>>> The RR will also hypothetically make life a little easier in >>>> introducing a friend to front and rear shifting- why does the same action >>>> push the bike to a higher gear in the front and lower gear in the rear (I >>>> forget too..) >>>> >>>> On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 at 20:58, Miles Payton <milesh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I got a used XTR M951 long cage derailleur for a song on ebay a few >>>>> months ago. Maybe there's not much demand? The seller gave me a half off >>>>> offer so I couldn't refuse. Anyway it works great and it appears they're >>>>> usually $50-80 depending on the condition. Not bad for what was once a >>>>> top-of-the-line derailleur. I'd just avoid the NOS stuff because that's >>>>> where you start spending $200 or more. >>>>> I've been plenty happy with mine. It's paired to Gevenalle 10 speed >>>>> shifters on my Atlantis. I can't speak to replacement parts but it >>>>> wouldn't >>>>> be expensive to replace, and my old M900 hasn't needed more than a >>>>> rebuild >>>>> in 20 years. They're pretty well-made. >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 12:01:39 PM UTC-5 chintan jadwani wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm looking to try a RR derailleur and want something under 50-60 >>>>>> ideally. >>>>>> >>>>>> Which ones would you recommend? Were there are early RR derailleurs >>>>>> that one should stay from or budget ones that are a good value? 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