I am a current Sam Hillborne owner. Like Jason Fuller said this is the bike 
that I'd never sell. I love it so much and it does everything that I need 
it to do on both paved and dirt roads. That would be a top pick based on 
your planned use case. I recently expanded my stable of Riv's to include 
both a Platypus and an A. Homer Hilsen. Based on my current offerings the 
Sam is the one I'd reach for if I plan to ride mostly dirt roads. I have 
44's on it which makes it a great gravel bike. Also the chainstays are long 
without being super long making it a very stable descender. I've tried 
every handlebar configuration you can imagine and they all worked great on 
the Sam. I currently have it set up with wide drop bars and a short 5 cm 
stem. It rides great with this set up. 

My Platypus is going to be my all arounder, grocery getter, bike path rider 
and maybe even an s240. My AHH is my dedicated road bike with 38's but I 
wouldn't hesitate to ride it on dirt if given the opportunity. 

I would suggest the Sam. 



On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 3:27:53 AM UTC-4 jkg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi, Bud, 
>
> I'm sure this has been posted at some point in the past, but I stumbled 
> upon this the other day and thought it might be of interest both to you and 
> others on this thread.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx83uMhIgKA
>
> Otherwise, for what it's worth, I think the suggestions above are great.  
> Based on your intended use, I would agree with those who suggest the 
> Hilborne.  Don't have one, but had the good fortune to ride one for several 
> weeks -- thanks, again, Max! -- and loved it.  If I had to downsize from my 
> Homer and my Atlantis to a single bike that would suit the purposes they 
> serve for me — long road rides, commutes, on and off road, etc. -- it would 
> be my choice.
>
> Best,
> jason
>
> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 4:32:53 AM UTC+2 Erik wrote:
>
>> Evening, 
>>
>> Based on the parameters and details you provided, I think that a 
>> Hillborne or Appaloosa would work well.  Or an Atlantis instead of the 
>> Appaloosa.  I have all three, all set up very differently, but each has 
>> gone through a lot of iterations.  The key for me would be what type of 
>> trails you are wanting to ride, your size, and trail riding style.  The 
>> Hillborne is a great bike, fun on the road and pretty nimble on the trail. 
>>  The Hillborne has a smaller tire width max and lighter tubes.  The 
>> Appaloosa or the Atlantis are longer and have stouter tubes.  They also 
>> take up to a 2.2 tire.  I've run both as primarily trail bikes and they 
>> handled pretty much anything I wanted to ride except for the most extreme 
>> trails in my local parks.  They work really well as trail bikes.  I've run 
>> them with 1x 11 (50 large cog) set ups, 3 x 9  with 11-34 cassettes, and 
>> now as 2x.  I live in northern California and do a lot of climbing.  The 
>> gearing has always been fantastic.  My Appaloosa was my primary commuting 
>> bike for about five years.    
>>
>> Here's my Instagram if you want to get a look at some of the set ups that 
>> I've used over the years.  It's mostly bikes: 
>> https://www.instagram.com/lith.o.carp.us/
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>> Erik
>>
>> On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 5:43:49 PM UTC-7 Bud Suttree wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> With all that said, of the current offerings, what would y’all recommend? 
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>

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