There is a lot of overlap in the Riv lineup. Most bikes can handle any 
road, paved or gravel, even the Roadini (though I would not buy it for off 
roading, it will take a 42mm tire which is plenty big for going on dirt). 
The Homers, Sams are more roadie than the Appaloosa, Atlantis and Platypus 
but can also easily go off road and take racks, fenders, and carry a decent 
load. The only difference between the Sams and Homers is really the brakes 
(v brakes/canti v. caliper/centerpull). Sams take a slightly larger tire, 
maybe 50mm over 48mm for the Homer. If you really want one bike to rule 
them all, I would get the Appaloosa or Atlantis, they are the same bike, 
take big tires (55mm), take heavy loads. Most people will not even notice 
the difference in the weight or stiffness. Also the longer chainstays make 
the ride more plush. Platy is just as useful and comfortable but the design 
is not for everyone. Clem is basically a cheaper Susie. Also the colors 
change every year so this years Apps will not be tbhe same as last year. 

   - February - Clems
   - March - Lugged Susies - kind of a new model
   - April - Roaduno bikes and frames - new model
   - May - Sam Hillbornes
   - June - Appaloosas
   - July - Platypus bikes and frames
   - August - Charlie Gallop, nu model, bikes and frames, more info later
   - September - Roadini


On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 12:27:53 AM UTC-7 jkg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi, Bud, 
>
> I'm sure this has been posted at some point in the past, but I stumbled 
> upon this the other day and thought it might be of interest both to you and 
> others on this thread.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx83uMhIgKA
>
> Otherwise, for what it's worth, I think the suggestions above are great.  
> Based on your intended use, I would agree with those who suggest the 
> Hilborne.  Don't have one, but had the good fortune to ride one for several 
> weeks -- thanks, again, Max! -- and loved it.  If I had to downsize from my 
> Homer and my Atlantis to a single bike that would suit the purposes they 
> serve for me — long road rides, commutes, on and off road, etc. -- it would 
> be my choice.
>
> Best,
> jason
>
> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 4:32:53 AM UTC+2 Erik wrote:
>
>> Evening, 
>>
>> Based on the parameters and details you provided, I think that a 
>> Hillborne or Appaloosa would work well.  Or an Atlantis instead of the 
>> Appaloosa.  I have all three, all set up very differently, but each has 
>> gone through a lot of iterations.  The key for me would be what type of 
>> trails you are wanting to ride, your size, and trail riding style.  The 
>> Hillborne is a great bike, fun on the road and pretty nimble on the trail. 
>>  The Hillborne has a smaller tire width max and lighter tubes.  The 
>> Appaloosa or the Atlantis are longer and have stouter tubes.  They also 
>> take up to a 2.2 tire.  I've run both as primarily trail bikes and they 
>> handled pretty much anything I wanted to ride except for the most extreme 
>> trails in my local parks.  They work really well as trail bikes.  I've run 
>> them with 1x 11 (50 large cog) set ups, 3 x 9  with 11-34 cassettes, and 
>> now as 2x.  I live in northern California and do a lot of climbing.  The 
>> gearing has always been fantastic.  My Appaloosa was my primary commuting 
>> bike for about five years.    
>>
>> Here's my Instagram if you want to get a look at some of the set ups that 
>> I've used over the years.  It's mostly bikes: 
>> https://www.instagram.com/lith.o.carp.us/
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>> Erik
>>
>> On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 5:43:49 PM UTC-7 Bud Suttree wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> With all that said, of the current offerings, what would y’all recommend? 
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>

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