Yes, often after 6 months or a year or more of riding, after the sealant has plugged, I guess very many wee little thorn holes, enough sealant will have wept into the tire carcase and dried to glue the tube to the inside of the tire.
I use very thin butyl tubes. Even so, I've never, ever had a problem or even a worry about just yanking hard to peel the tube off the tire; and again, when it sticks firmly this is generally after >12 months at least. The real and big problem is a big hole that dumps most of 2 to 4 fl oz (depending if 1" or 1/8" tube) all at once into the inside of the tire; then you don't usually have a sticking problem but you've got a bloody mess. I carry an old bandana in each tool kit to wipe up such messes, though 99/100 times I use them instead to wipe my hands after messing with the chain. On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 3:16 PM Chris Fly <fourf...@gmail.com> wrote: > Patrick, > > How is it to take a tube with sealant out of the tire after the sealant > has fixed a hole? Do they stick to each other? > > Chris > > Make a space for people to come as they are and not have to just “fit in” > > On May 11, 2024, at 2:11 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I've used sealant in inner tubes since about 2013, when after years of > using ~utility tires (Paselas, Kojaks, Fatboys, City Slickers, Tom Slicks, > Avocets) and fixing >150 flats per year I tried a pair of new "open > tubular" Paris Roubaix and got 5 goathead flats within 10 or 15 miles. > Stan's worked in my 700C X 28 standard road tubes and, after a couple of > years, Orange Seal worked even better. > > I use Orange Seal in the lightest-weight butyls I can find; notable 100 > gram actual 650B/559 X 1.8 Schwalbes and 70 gram actual Schwalbe 650C X > 20/559X1", as well as Conti 650C/559 ditto, Specialized 26X1" ditto, and > (IIRC) lightweight Vittoria ditto. > > OS in tubes at 30 to 60 psi works I'd guess a metaphorical 905 or 95% as > well as OS in fat tubeless low pressure tires. > > *OS Regular Formula!* OS Endurance, wonderful in fat lp tubeless tires, *does > not work for me* in road tubes at 30 to 60 psi. > > The penetrants I face are almost always goatheads. I get the very > occasional (<1X/year for 2-3K miles across 3 bikes) larger hole that OS > Regular won't seal, but even those are 9 times out of 10 slow leaks and let > me get home before the tire goes flat (short rides, =/<30 miles). I carry 2 > spare tubes, either containing 2 fl oz of OS Regular or -- now prefer -- > dry + 4 fl oz bottle of OS Regular, and on the very rare occasions I have > to stop mid ride for a puncture I change the tube and repair the puncture > with a Rema once back home. > > You can patch tubes with sealant as long as you clean all sealant off the > area to be patched (I use alcohol just to be sure), then rough it, glue, > and patch as usual. > > Stan's used to leave rubber octopuses of dried sealant in tubes after 12 > or 18 months; OS regular does not do that; I only add more -- 1X year or > less often -- when my tubes start deflating and not sealing immediately -- > due, I think, to many small punctures over 12-18 months that leak very > small amounts of sealant into the tire carcase, so that eventually there is > no longer enough left in the tube to do its job. This compares to replacing > OS Endurance every 3 or 4 months in lp tubeless tires in our dry climate; > in very dry hot weather ~3 months, in colder, more humid weather, ~4 months. > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing > services > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/D794AC5B-DB50-4195-937B-DA88E63D15F4%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/D794AC5B-DB50-4195-937B-DA88E63D15F4%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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