Hi Mike, I think you have a 60 (like mine). Here's the geo from the Ram brochure <https://notfine.com/rivendell/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Rambouillet.pdf> where you can see the 60 has a 58 top tube. Hope this helps.
[image: ram.jpg] Max On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 9:32:40 AM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote: > Bump and an update on sizing: > > I listed this as a size 58 based on the 57 c-t-c top tube, though it also > has a 60cm c-t-t seat tube. Confusing, because the 58 size should have a 58 > c-t-t seat tube. I had one buyer back out because they were concerned about > standover. > > As a data point, I had this set up as 650x42 and it had a standover of > 83.5. I'm an 88 pbh, 5'11" height for reference and I found it fit well for > me with a 90mm stem and drops. > > On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 4:08:04 PM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote: > >> Another data point, I shoed Ram #005 with up to 700x38 tires, with >> acceptable room to spare. Same brakes as noted above. I may have some >> photos on my home computer showing tire clearances. I picked up #005, a >> floor demo, in August 2002. >> Mike SLO CA >> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 3:37:25 PM UTC-7 Erik Wright wrote: >> >>> Not to derail too hard, but on the topic of Suntour Superbe brakes, I >>> happen to be selling a 1st gen Suntour Superbe group (brakes, levers, DT >>> shifters, FD, RD) and a campagnolo crankset in case anybody needs the parts >>> to build up this frameset. $300+ship if anyone is interested. >>> >>> Erik, Philly >>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 5:28:05 PM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote: >>> >>>> I had my Ram speed modulated with Suntour Superbe "normal" reach >>>> brakes, i.e., 57 mm reach. >>>> Mike SLO CA >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 2:17:53 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote: >>>> >>>>> I only did 700x32 with fenders, I never tried bigger without fenders >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 4:15 PM Hoch in ut <cack...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From the link you provided, it says 700x38 fit? Did you mean 38’s? >>>>>> That’s definitely mid-reach territory. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 2:09:47 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I don't recall if they were short or mid reach. They weren't >>>>>>> the Tektro R559s >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 4:07 PM Hoch in ut <cack...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For the 700x32 set up, did you use regular (short reach) brakes? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 1:11:55 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's time to part ways with my Ram. It's been a great frame >>>>>>>>> capable of lots of different build options, but overlaps too much >>>>>>>>> with my >>>>>>>>> Fitz Rando. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It was sold to me as a 60, but the top tube measures 57, so it >>>>>>>>> leads me to believe its a 58. Here's a link to the original catalog >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> geo chart at the end: >>>>>>>>> https://notfine.com/rivreader/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Rambouillet.pdf >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Frame is in great shape, one small dent on the top tube presumably >>>>>>>>> from the handlebar/shifter hitting it. I've tried to capture most of >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> paint scratches. This made a great 650bx42 conversion with fenders. I >>>>>>>>> used >>>>>>>>> Tektro R559 brakes to reach the lower rim brake surface. As a 700c >>>>>>>>> build, I >>>>>>>>> was able to do 32s with fenders. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Comes with an Ultegra Headset installed and cable stops. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll include an original Rambouillet catalog as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/kVPXz1K3bdXdt4ax9 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> $750 plus shipping via ups ground. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mike in Minneapolis >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/KuYTWBe7NJg/unsubscribe >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c87132e1-8706-4015-8a3c-94fb4a595afan%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c87132e1-8706-4015-8a3c-94fb4a595afan%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/KuYTWBe7NJg/unsubscribe >>>>>> . >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e3a18a68-ee3c-422a-8019-de361c0e1376n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e3a18a68-ee3c-422a-8019-de361c0e1376n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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