Is it a slightly sloping top tube? 57cm as measured, 58cm ETT in catalogue?
On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 11:23:26 AM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote: > I measured from the center of the bb to the point where the seatpost first > becomes visible. > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 9:40 AM Hoch in ut <cack...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> To what point on the set tube are you measuring CTT? I don’t know the >> answer but always wondered whether you go to the pointy end of the lug or >> to where the seatpost first becomes visible. >> >> On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 7:31:19 AM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote: >> >>> Correct, but mine has a 57 top tube, unless I'm measuring it wrong. >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 9:22 AM maxcr <max.fai...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Mike, >>>> >>>> I think you have a 60 (like mine). Here's the geo from the Ram brochure >>>> <https://notfine.com/rivendell/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Rambouillet.pdf> >>>> >>>> where you can see the 60 has a 58 top tube. Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> [image: ram.jpg] >>>> >>>> Max >>>> On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 9:32:40 AM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bump and an update on sizing: >>>>> >>>>> I listed this as a size 58 based on the 57 c-t-c top tube, though it >>>>> also has a 60cm c-t-t seat tube. Confusing, because the 58 size should >>>>> have >>>>> a 58 c-t-t seat tube. I had one buyer back out because they were >>>>> concerned >>>>> about standover. >>>>> >>>>> As a data point, I had this set up as 650x42 and it had a standover of >>>>> 83.5. I'm an 88 pbh, 5'11" height for reference and I found it fit well >>>>> for >>>>> me with a 90mm stem and drops. >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 4:08:04 PM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Another data point, I shoed Ram #005 with up to 700x38 tires, with >>>>>> acceptable room to spare. Same brakes as noted above. I may have some >>>>>> photos on my home computer showing tire clearances. I picked up #005, a >>>>>> floor demo, in August 2002. >>>>>> Mike SLO CA >>>>>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 3:37:25 PM UTC-7 Erik Wright wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Not to derail too hard, but on the topic of Suntour Superbe brakes, >>>>>>> I happen to be selling a 1st gen Suntour Superbe group (brakes, levers, >>>>>>> DT >>>>>>> shifters, FD, RD) and a campagnolo crankset in case anybody needs the >>>>>>> parts >>>>>>> to build up this frameset. $300+ship if anyone is interested. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Erik, Philly >>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 5:28:05 PM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had my Ram speed modulated with Suntour Superbe "normal" reach >>>>>>>> brakes, i.e., 57 mm reach. >>>>>>>> Mike SLO CA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 2:17:53 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I only did 700x32 with fenders, I never tried bigger without >>>>>>>>> fenders >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 4:15 PM Hoch in ut <cack...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From the link you provided, it says 700x38 fit? Did you mean >>>>>>>>>> 38’s? That’s definitely mid-reach territory. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 2:09:47 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I don't recall if they were short or mid reach. They >>>>>>>>>>> weren't the Tektro R559s >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 4:07 PM Hoch in ut <cack...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For the 700x32 set up, did you use regular (short reach) >>>>>>>>>>>> brakes? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 1:11:55 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's time to part ways with my Ram. It's been a great frame >>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of lots of different build options, but overlaps too much >>>>>>>>>>>>> with my >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fitz Rando. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It was sold to me as a 60, but the top tube measures 57, so it >>>>>>>>>>>>> leads me to believe its a 58. Here's a link to the original >>>>>>>>>>>>> catalog with >>>>>>>>>>>>> geo chart at the end: >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://notfine.com/rivreader/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Rambouillet.pdf >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Frame is in great shape, one small dent on the top tube >>>>>>>>>>>>> presumably from the handlebar/shifter hitting it. I've tried to >>>>>>>>>>>>> capture >>>>>>>>>>>>> most of the paint scratches. This made a great 650bx42 conversion >>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>> fenders. I used Tektro R559 brakes to reach the lower rim brake >>>>>>>>>>>>> surface. As >>>>>>>>>>>>> a 700c build, I was able to do 32s with fenders. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Comes with an Ultegra Headset installed and cable stops. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll include an original Rambouillet catalog as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/kVPXz1K3bdXdt4ax9 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> $750 plus shipping via ups ground. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike in Minneapolis >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic >>>>>>>>>>>> in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/KuYTWBe7NJg/unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an >>>>>>>>>>>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c87132e1-8706-4015-8a3c-94fb4a595afan%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c87132e1-8706-4015-8a3c-94fb4a595afan%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic >>>>>>>>>> in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/KuYTWBe7NJg/unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email >>>>>>>>>> to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e3a18a68-ee3c-422a-8019-de361c0e1376n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e3a18a68-ee3c-422a-8019-de361c0e1376n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/KuYTWBe7NJg/unsubscribe >>>> . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a9af66a2-dd42-40cf-850b-397537995bcan%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a9af66a2-dd42-40cf-850b-397537995bcan%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/KuYTWBe7NJg/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/eed0efd8-2131-4af1-b40f-92a82dd3a2fbn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/eed0efd8-2131-4af1-b40f-92a82dd3a2fbn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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