I purchased a Bivo bottle last holiday season from my LBS, with the 
intention of bringing it to a White Elephant party. I thought it was a good 
way to support my LBS, but also not super bike specific. Well, for reasons, 
I ended up not going to the party and I kept the Bivo and started using it. 
Definitely impressed with the design! I use it in a normal SS King Cage and 
it seems to be wearing the same as my plastic bottles and stays put.

I won't be throwing out all my plastic bidons and replacing them with Bivos 
(that seems wasteful!) But it does solve an issue that I've always had with 
plastic bottles: after 24-48 hours the water in a plastic bottle tastes 
obviously "plastic-y" and I toss it out. Sure, after 48 hours in the Bivo, 
the water tastes "stale" but otherwise fine enough for me to drink. So less 
wasted water!

I think they could take off if company's/LBS's started logo-ing like they 
do ubiquitous Specialized bidon. Afterall, the customized Bidon with a 
pithy saying or your favorite brand is just one of those important 
finishing touches to your bike build :)

On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 9:30:01 AM UTC-7 Steven Seelig wrote:

> Aside from meeting all the great builders and Riv folks at the Philly Bike 
> Expo, I was also smitten by the idea of getting rid of all my plastic water 
> bottles and moving to these fabulous Bivo 
> <https://drinkbivo.com/blogs/news/neuhaus-bikes?utm_source=Bivo%20Contacts%20%28newsletter%29&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Neuhaus%20Bikes%20Feature%20%28clone%29&_kx=pQ9WyzaKCte-zoXsygKNuWnAw__xZpVZMzZn9JOs4Wo.PSsm5X>
>  bottles. 
>  At the risk of being a shill, I love them.  
>
> They have solved the "how do I get water out of a metal bottle?" problem 
> by including a silicone straw that permits you to drink from the bottle 
> just as you would drink from a glass.  I bought three insulated versions, 
> and rotate them amongst my several bikes.  And they keep the ice cubes 
> cubed, at least in Spring weather.
>
> The downside is that you will have to either swap or rejigger your bottle 
> cage so that they fit properly and that the cage won't scratch the surface. 
>  This may be anathema, but I now have actual composite (yes, carbon fiber) 
> water bottle cages on several of my bikes.  At least I don't have a carbon 
> fiber fork.  And it takes some looking around to find one that work 
> properly.
>
> That said, this terrible twitch I have had for years from plastic 
> poisoning is now dissipating as I move to stainless steel (kidding).  But 
> at least I worry less about microplastics.  Plus, I can now use those 
> electrolyte tablets, whichI NEVER used in plastic bottles because they 
> never washed out, without a care in the world.
>
> What do other think about the whole plastic bottle thing and this 
> potential change?
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