Over the past few years I seem to have developed a sensitivity to the taste 
of plastic in my drinking water. It started with Camelback bladders and 
then began to include most bicycle water bottles. My theory is that I've 
become so saturated with micro plastics that my taste buds are trying to 
warn me away from them - in the same manner that most rotten food and 
toxins taste and smell nasty. Gradually I switched over to stainless steel 
and now use it almost exclusively.

Steve in AVL
On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 1:57:53 PM UTC-4 Will Boericke wrote:

> I bought my wife a Bivo for Xmas - she uses is for swimming (at the end of 
> the pool), and loves it.  I have not converted on the bike but am generally 
> also trying to eliminate plastic from my life.  It is hard.
>
> Will near Boston
>
> On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 1:55:04 PM UTC-4 Ben Miller wrote:
>
>> They can very easily be operated one-handed, perhaps ever more slightly 
>> then a plastic one since you don't have to squeeze it? But yeah, you can't 
>> squeeze them, unless you have some super-human grip. But in all 
>> seriousness, there is absolutely no need to squeeze them: you just open the 
>> spout like a plastic bottle and the water flows out.
>>
>> On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 10:34:49 AM UTC-7 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can it be operated with one hand? Can it be squeezed? The 1st is a 
>>> non-negotiable for me, and the other almost is. The large Specialized 
>>> bottles were (are still?) the business. Worked great and were cheap, 
>>> especially out of the big bin at J. Random Cyclery, full of bottles 
>>> screen-printed with the logos of God alone knew what.
>>>
>>> BPUs (or whatever they're called, 'cuz I don't care enough to remember) 
>>> are delicious! Bring back my squeezy plastic water bottles! (But don't step 
>>> on my lawn while doing so.)
>>>
>>> --Shannon
>>> On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 10:14:08 AM UTC-7 Ben Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>> I purchased a Bivo bottle last holiday season from my LBS, with the 
>>>> intention of bringing it to a White Elephant party. I thought it was a 
>>>> good 
>>>> way to support my LBS, but also not super bike specific. Well, for 
>>>> reasons, 
>>>> I ended up not going to the party and I kept the Bivo and started using 
>>>> it. 
>>>> Definitely impressed with the design! I use it in a normal SS King Cage 
>>>> and 
>>>> it seems to be wearing the same as my plastic bottles and stays put.
>>>>
>>>> I won't be throwing out all my plastic bidons and replacing them with 
>>>> Bivos (that seems wasteful!) But it does solve an issue that I've always 
>>>> had with plastic bottles: after 24-48 hours the water in a plastic bottle 
>>>> tastes obviously "plastic-y" and I toss it out. Sure, after 48 hours in 
>>>> the 
>>>> Bivo, the water tastes "stale" but otherwise fine enough for me to drink. 
>>>> So less wasted water!
>>>>
>>>> I think they could take off if company's/LBS's started logo-ing like 
>>>> they do ubiquitous Specialized bidon. Afterall, the customized Bidon with 
>>>> a 
>>>> pithy saying or your favorite brand is just one of those important 
>>>> finishing touches to your bike build :)
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 9:30:01 AM UTC-7 Steven Seelig wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Aside from meeting all the great builders and Riv folks at the Philly 
>>>>> Bike Expo, I was also smitten by the idea of getting rid of all my 
>>>>> plastic 
>>>>> water bottles and moving to these fabulous Bivo 
>>>>> <https://drinkbivo.com/blogs/news/neuhaus-bikes?utm_source=Bivo%20Contacts%20%28newsletter%29&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Neuhaus%20Bikes%20Feature%20%28clone%29&_kx=pQ9WyzaKCte-zoXsygKNuWnAw__xZpVZMzZn9JOs4Wo.PSsm5X>
>>>>>  bottles. 
>>>>>  At the risk of being a shill, I love them.  
>>>>>
>>>>> They have solved the "how do I get water out of a metal bottle?" 
>>>>> problem by including a silicone straw that permits you to drink from the 
>>>>> bottle just as you would drink from a glass.  I bought three insulated 
>>>>> versions, and rotate them amongst my several bikes.  And they keep the 
>>>>> ice 
>>>>> cubes cubed, at least in Spring weather.
>>>>>
>>>>> The downside is that you will have to either swap or rejigger your 
>>>>> bottle cage so that they fit properly and that the cage won't scratch the 
>>>>> surface.  This may be anathema, but I now have actual composite (yes, 
>>>>> carbon fiber) water bottle cages on several of my bikes.  At least I 
>>>>> don't 
>>>>> have a carbon fiber fork.  And it takes some looking around to find one 
>>>>> that work properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, this terrible twitch I have had for years from plastic 
>>>>> poisoning is now dissipating as I move to stainless steel (kidding).  But 
>>>>> at least I worry less about microplastics.  Plus, I can now use those 
>>>>> electrolyte tablets, whichI NEVER used in plastic bottles because they 
>>>>> never washed out, without a care in the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do other think about the whole plastic bottle thing and this 
>>>>> potential change?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

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