I bought a 25 oz for my bike riding friend's birthday, ordered one for me 
too. I have not used it yet, trying to get over some lung crud so only 
short rides. I've been using Kleen Canteen for about two years, but not 
with a sippy-cup top. Ride with no hands, unscrew lid, drink, repeat. 

Mike SLO CA

On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 10:14:08 AM UTC-7 Ben Miller wrote:

> I purchased a Bivo bottle last holiday season from my LBS, with the 
> intention of bringing it to a White Elephant party. I thought it was a good 
> way to support my LBS, but also not super bike specific. Well, for reasons, 
> I ended up not going to the party and I kept the Bivo and started using it. 
> Definitely impressed with the design! I use it in a normal SS King Cage and 
> it seems to be wearing the same as my plastic bottles and stays put.
>
> I won't be throwing out all my plastic bidons and replacing them with 
> Bivos (that seems wasteful!) But it does solve an issue that I've always 
> had with plastic bottles: after 24-48 hours the water in a plastic bottle 
> tastes obviously "plastic-y" and I toss it out. Sure, after 48 hours in the 
> Bivo, the water tastes "stale" but otherwise fine enough for me to drink. 
> So less wasted water!
>
> I think they could take off if company's/LBS's started logo-ing like they 
> do ubiquitous Specialized bidon. Afterall, the customized Bidon with a 
> pithy saying or your favorite brand is just one of those important 
> finishing touches to your bike build :)
>
> On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 9:30:01 AM UTC-7 Steven Seelig wrote:
>
>> Aside from meeting all the great builders and Riv folks at the Philly 
>> Bike Expo, I was also smitten by the idea of getting rid of all my plastic 
>> water bottles and moving to these fabulous Bivo 
>> <https://drinkbivo.com/blogs/news/neuhaus-bikes?utm_source=Bivo%20Contacts%20%28newsletter%29&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Neuhaus%20Bikes%20Feature%20%28clone%29&_kx=pQ9WyzaKCte-zoXsygKNuWnAw__xZpVZMzZn9JOs4Wo.PSsm5X>
>>  bottles. 
>>  At the risk of being a shill, I love them.  
>>
>> They have solved the "how do I get water out of a metal bottle?" problem 
>> by including a silicone straw that permits you to drink from the bottle 
>> just as you would drink from a glass.  I bought three insulated versions, 
>> and rotate them amongst my several bikes.  And they keep the ice cubes 
>> cubed, at least in Spring weather.
>>
>> The downside is that you will have to either swap or rejigger your bottle 
>> cage so that they fit properly and that the cage won't scratch the surface. 
>>  This may be anathema, but I now have actual composite (yes, carbon fiber) 
>> water bottle cages on several of my bikes.  At least I don't have a carbon 
>> fiber fork.  And it takes some looking around to find one that work 
>> properly.
>>
>> That said, this terrible twitch I have had for years from plastic 
>> poisoning is now dissipating as I move to stainless steel (kidding).  But 
>> at least I worry less about microplastics.  Plus, I can now use those 
>> electrolyte tablets, whichI NEVER used in plastic bottles because they 
>> never washed out, without a care in the world.
>>
>> What do other think about the whole plastic bottle thing and this 
>> potential change?
>>
>>
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>>

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