Stay tuned for our next episode, when Leah buys a drop bar Roadini. :)

Eric

On Wednesday, May 14, 2025, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok, here’s what I have decided after Monday night’s club ride. Charlie is
> easy and breezy and quick on the draw, yes. But in headwind, he gives me
> the same struggle as a Platypus.  I am not fooling the wind with Charlie.
>
> I’ll tell you a story. Skip to the end if you are here for the nuts and
> bolts and not for the tea.
>
> I looked around at my group for the evening and there were many of the
> usual suspects. There was one new rider, a male, and he appeared young. Was
> he a kid? You know how you just can’t tell how old people are once you
> reach a certain age? Well, I dread making that mistake. “Hi, are you new?”
> I asked.
>
> He smiled at me with a mouthful of braces. “Yes! This is my first time
> here. My name is D [using in place of his real name].”
>
> This is somebody’s baby!
>
> “What grade are you in?”
>
> “I’m in 8th, and I’m 14.”
>
> Ooookkkkkkk. I have never seen a kid on our club rides. “Are your parents
> here?”
>
> “No, my little sister is. She’s riding with another group. Mom took my
> brother to a soccer game, and Dad can’t be around people because of his
> immune system. It could kill him.”
>
> When you encounter them outside, kids are communal property, I say. We
> gotta all take care of them. This is probably why I get picked to be the
> baby nurse at work, come to think of it. I love the cherubs. Bring me the
> cherubs! So I pair up with D and we end up taking the first pull of the
> ride. D tells me he is truly a mountain biker, but he knows how to road
> ride. He’s training 130-140 miles a week. We are in a 17 mph headwind and I
> am dying. I was counting on Charlie to really make life easy for me,
> because Charlie is a road bike, and road bikes are supposed to have
> advantages over Platypuses, but I look at my heart rate and it is 182. D is
> chatting away about all his goals and his homeschooling and I am gasping.
> After several miles of this, I say, “I am ready to fall to the back. Are
> you coming or do you want to stay and pull?”
>
> “I’m going to stay here and keep the pace up.”
>
> And he did, y’all. He drug us over hill and dale, and we suffered the
> whole time. For most of the 27 mile ride. I kept trying to feed him at stop
> signs figuring he must be about dead but he never accepted any food. And
> then he shot ahead like a slingshot at the end and beat everyone home. “Our
> KID!” I said to the woman beside me. “I know,” she said, “but he’s
> experienced on the roads.” I watched trucks pass our group and then
> approach D, worrying they’d hit him.
>
> “HE’S FOURTEEN HE’S A BABY,” I croaked. He made it back fine.
>
> Back to Charlie. When my heart was 182, my friends’ hearts were in the
> 150s. After we got out of the wind I could just *fly* without effort on
> Charlie. I have decided that the weight of my bike, the flat pedals,
> upright bars - all that stuff - doesn’t make me slow. But wind is the
> mortal enemy of a Rivendell, I think, even if it’s a road bike. If it’s
> windy, it’s work and it’s hard to be fast. I still say Charlie is otherwise
> a fast bike and great fun to ride.
>
> Leah
> On Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 5:05:24 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> I've been seeing such incredible builds lately!  Both Leah and Matt's
>> bikes are particularly inspiring, Kudos. I love the playfulness. It reminds
>> me of  the golden days of bmx/fixed gear days with flamboyant colors (or
>> just color coordination) and uniquely outfitted components.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 11:45:14 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> I was fortunate enough to test ride a Charlie Gallop at Riv HQ recently
>>> and entered the experience without expectations. Granted, this was my first
>>> time trying a Riv. I had my sights set on a Homer but there wasn't one
>>> available to try, so I grabbed a CHG to test its Homer-like tubing. While I
>>> wasn't initially a fan of the CHG due to the top tube (purely aesthetic for
>>> personal preference), everything changed once I started riding it. Not that
>>> speed was the goal, but the bike felt much faster than the Roaduno and
>>> Platypus that I also test rode. I was instantly sold on this bike and if I
>>> weren't on the market for a Homer, the CHG would be second in line.
>>>
>>> Hope to see more CHGs in this thread!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 15, 2025 at 6:36:22 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fashion!  Here's a photo or two of Lord Charles with his lovely
>>>> new-used White Industries VBC crankset on there:
>>>>
>>>> Cranks <https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/54455145695>
>>>> Bike <https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/54454978649>
>>>>
>>>> My latest indulgence on the cute bike clothes front has been cycling
>>>> specific button up shirts.  I've got four or five Ostroy Resort Shirts, and
>>>> just bought two more button up bike shirts at REI by maker FlyLow.  They're
>>>> cute!
>>>>
>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 15, 2025 at 3:13:53 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Also, for clarity’s sake, Bill said his stable is like a closet full
>>>>> of outfits and he has to choose which one to wear [use] any given day
>>>>> according to the Rules. My use of “Cute Bike Outfits” refers to Bill’s
>>>>> BIKES in his closet. Don’t come to me with actual bike clothing questions.
>>>>> I have no idea!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 15, 2025, at 4:48 PM, Leah Peterson <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill Lindsay is a self-professed Bike Clothes Horse with a plethora of
>>>>> cute bike outfits being held captive to Bill Lindsay’s Arbitrary Rules 
>>>>> that
>>>>> he cannot change. Bill Lindsay would have to go to Bill Lindsay to change
>>>>> the Rules, and not even Bill Lindsay is brave enough for THAT.
>>>>>
>>>>> Leah Peterson, a known lover of cute bike outfits, and first-rate
>>>>> bossypants, is unafraid of her Big RivBros (well, maybe a little afraid of
>>>>> Bill Lindsay) and would like nothing more than to get into Bill Lindsay’s
>>>>> closet and rearrange his cute bike outfits *and* his mileage pyramid.
>>>>> She would like to move Bill’s Rocket Charlie to the top position, weight
>>>>> him down with some colorful bits, toss out a few of those imposters
>>>>> (several non-Rivs will have to go!) and replace them with a paddle of
>>>>> Platypuses in a rainbow of colors to really brighten Bill Lindsay’s Bike
>>>>> Outfits up and round it all out. Then she would like a photo shoot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fortunately for Bill Lindsay, Leah Peterson lives several timezones
>>>>> away and his closet is probably safe for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Leah
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2025, at 10:20 AM, Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "How do you have the willpower to keep rotating bikes? If I have a
>>>>> rocket, I’m riding that one."
>>>>>
>>>>> The answer is I'm not sure how I have the willpower; I just do.  Grant
>>>>> once told me: "It must be hard being you".  I guess I think about it the
>>>>> way a "clothes horse" thinks about a new outfit.  No matter how cute that
>>>>> new outfit is, I'm not wearing it every day.  I still pick my spots for
>>>>> when to wear it, and I'm definitely not forgetting about my other cute
>>>>> outfits, nor will I resist buying the next cute outfit.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm definitely a compulsive.  For a minute there I had four new builds
>>>>> that were off-limits to ride.  At the moment there are still three I can't
>>>>> ride.  What I've got is a mileage pyramid.  One bike is assigned to the 
>>>>> 100
>>>>> mile level of the pyramid, another assigned to 200 miles and so on.  
>>>>> Twenty
>>>>> bikes cover 100 miles up to 2000 miles cumulatively on Strava.  Above 2000
>>>>> miles the steps are 200 miles each and there are two bikes up there: one
>>>>> assigned to 2200 miles and the current top of the pyramid is at 2400
>>>>> miles.  That's 22 bikes.  I spread the use to get each bike to its 
>>>>> assigned
>>>>> level, and I'm allowed some margin over that assigned level, but I won't
>>>>> bleed over to the next level up.  That's a no-no.  I'm very close to 
>>>>> having
>>>>> all those slots filled: My Black Mountain Model Zero needs 48 miles, and 
>>>>> my
>>>>> Crust Lightning Bolt Single Speed needs 45 miles.  At that point, I add 
>>>>> the
>>>>> 2600 mile level to the top of the pyramid and have a wide open stable to
>>>>> ride whatever I like.
>>>>>
>>>>> The four other builds (22+4=26 bikes) waiting to be used included my
>>>>> Gallop.  I have it at the 0 mile level, which means I can ride it, but not
>>>>> over 100 miles because then it would get up into the next level which is
>>>>> already occupied.  There are three more bikes assigned to the -100, -200
>>>>> and -300 levels, which are imaginary, so I can't ride them at all.  When I
>>>>> get to ratchet up the framework, then one more bike will be unlocked.  The
>>>>> other way to earn the privilege of riding another bike is to sell a bike
>>>>> and make a new vacancy in the pyramid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlocking the stable is really close, but I'm stalled getting those
>>>>> last two bikes over the finish line:  The ModelZero has a new drive train
>>>>> set up in the works, and I'm missing a critical part for another week or
>>>>> two.  It's in the work stand disassembled.  The Crust is stationed at my
>>>>> office in San Jose, and I don't get out there more than once a week, and
>>>>> when I do get to the office it's usually for full-days of meetings and 
>>>>> such
>>>>> that make it hard to get out.  I can still ride, because I can carefully
>>>>> use up that surplus that each bike carries.  That surplus is over 2100
>>>>> miles, so I can ride plenty and I can ride pretty much any of my bikes.
>>>>> The Gallop carries 88 miles of surplus.  I can even do my next 200k brevet
>>>>> using up surplus miles: My Ebisu is assigned to 2200 miles, and it's at
>>>>> 2215 miles, so it is carrying 185 miles of surplus.  I can use it for my
>>>>> May 200k, and still have 60 miles of surplus left over.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't blame me!  I don't make up the rules! (said the person who
>>>>> literally made up the rules)
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 14, 2025 at 2:30:15 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A rocket! Pretty exciting! How do you have the willpower to keep
>>>>>> rotating bikes? If I have a rocket, I’m riding that one. I don’t know if 
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> Charlie is a rocket; it doesn’t have those tires and certainly weighs 
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> than yours. I was hoping to ride him tonight in the club ride but they’re
>>>>>> predicting 37 mph winds. I don’t think that will be fun and it might not
>>>>>> even be safe, so we’ll see…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> L
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2025, at 8:59 PM, Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hinted that my Charlie Gallop might make its appearance in my
>>>>>> rotation this weekend, and it has.  I did not ride it up Mount Diablo, 
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> I did ride it down into Berkeley and back.  It is most definitely a
>>>>>> rocket.  Blazing fast down the hill on 700x38 Barlow Pass Extralight 
>>>>>> tires,
>>>>>> and blazing fast up the hills in part because it's so darn light.  It'll
>>>>>> take a little getting used to the handling with a Jitensha bar, but the 
>>>>>> fit
>>>>>> felt super natural.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also hinted at a tweak or two, and one of those conceptual tweaks
>>>>>> did happen.  It turned out I needed a lightish 110BCD crank for a 
>>>>>> project,
>>>>>> so I stole the Silver 3 crank off the Gallop for that application, and 
>>>>>> put
>>>>>> on a White Industries VBC crank with a single 36T narrow-wide ring.  
>>>>>> That's
>>>>>> a perfect match for the White Industries Titanium BB that was already on
>>>>>> there, and it dropped ~15g.  I don't have new photos yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, April 5, 2025 at 5:39:41 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've probably disappointed some people because I spent a ton of time
>>>>>>> talking about my Gallop build and have spent zero time talking about my
>>>>>>> Charlie Gallop gallops.  That's because I haven't ridden it yet.  It's 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> laziness or neglect or a lack of wanting to ride it.  It's my weird
>>>>>>> self-discipline.  I have a mileage framework with rules I entirely made 
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> for myself, and the consequence is that I won't ride the Gallop until I 
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> insert it into the framework, and I can't insert it into the framework
>>>>>>> until I make a spot for it, and the way I make a spot is by riding each 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> my other bikes to its assigned mileage level.  The punch-line is that 
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> just a few days away from having a spot for Charlie in my riding 
>>>>>>> framework
>>>>>>> and then stuff can begin.  One of the first things I'll do is gallop the
>>>>>>> Gallop up Mount Diablo, perhaps as soon as next weekend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meanwhile, independent from riding, there are always projects
>>>>>>> parading through my brain, and some of those thoughts end up happening 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> my work stand, and there is a real non-zero chance that Charlie is 
>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>> get a couple more unconventional tweaks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those who missed the build, here's the album:
>>>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720322843646/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>>>> El Cerrito, Ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 5, 2025 at 4:17:52 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding
>>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Kat! I would have chosen the Roadini if the Charlie didn’t
>>>>>>>> exist. The Charlie is, in size 53, lighter in tubing. And I love a 
>>>>>>>> dropped
>>>>>>>> tube. Also the graphics and head badge and horses running along the 
>>>>>>>> chain
>>>>>>>> stay are just YUMMY. And who doesn’t love that gold color?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The above all made it the winner.
>>>>>>>>
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