Great story Leah.  I've never ridden with a kid, and when I started reading 
your story I wasn't sure how it would go (like would he not be able to keep 
up, out of shape, asking you to call his mom to pick him up; would he leave 
you and others in the dust; so many things can happen).  It was 
entertaining.

Regarding wind, the bike and its weight, I think it's more about 
aerodynamics (how much frontal area exposed to the wind, for one).  Even 
though I ride weekly with a buddy who is faster (more aero, lighter bike), 
he knows I'm more upright on my Roadini (drop bars level w/saddle) and is 
okay going a few km slower than he would like.  The camaraderie is worth 
it!  When I ride along, I'm a few km/hr slower, so I'm pedaling harder to 
keep up, he's going slower, but it's all good.  If I put an Albatross bar 
on the bike and was 15-20 degrees more upright, I think I would really 
struggle to keep up.  That said, I have a bike with alt bars and I'm more 
upright, and I like riding like that, just not when I'm trying to go fast 
or in a group ride.  Lastly, comfort.  If being a little more stretched out 
would not work for you, don't do it in any case.  Whatever works for you, 
keeps you happy and riding more, that's the ticket.

On Wednesday, May 14, 2025 at 7:57:04 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> Leah,
> On a group ride a few years ago, okay maybe 12 years ago, one of the guys 
> brought his son along. His son was on a full suspension mountain bike and 
> we were all on carbon road bikes.  He kept up with us pretty easily and 
> rode a wheelie about half the time. We weren't pushing it by any means but 
> it seems that youth always wins out. I do agree with you that wind is the 
> ultimate speed killer and an upright position catches the wind like a sail. 
> With drop bars in the drops you really can be out of the wind. When I had 
> drop bars I would enjoy getting down into the drops now and then to stretch 
> out my back. I don't remember any specific group rides in windy conditions 
> but I have ridden in the wind many times solo. I would almost rather ride 
> in the rain that wind...almost.
> Doug
>
> On Wednesday, May 14, 2025 at 7:01:10 PM UTC-4 ttoshi wrote:
>
>> I can commiserate with high winds! For my Bosco bars, I place my hands on 
>> the front of the handlebars near the stem and tuck down--not ideal for 
>> pacelining because my brakes are at the end of the handlebar. On my 
>> Albastache, it is wrapped, and I've placed my brake levers at the front, so 
>> I can use the most aerodynamic option as the default. Don't give up on the 
>> Charlie yet!
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>

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