You're faster than me, Leah. I rode with my friend last Sunday. I had my Roadini with lighter wheels, 30mm tires. I averaged 25k/hr. 60km distance, 500M elevation. I felt like I was going fast. I've never tried a ride of that distance with upright position, mainly because that bike isn't what I reach to for such rides (2.2" wheels, mainly used on trails). You're just a speed demon, so a windy day hurts you more than me ;-)
On Wednesday, May 14, 2025 at 9:24:18 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > Daniel - you’d love Charlie. I actually feel (in normal conditions) that I > do zip around quicker than on a Platypus. > > Both Daniel and Jay: > > How fast are your road rides, out of curiosity? Because I never get slowed > down by my bars in rides UNLESS there is wind. But you’re experiencing > something different - that your upright bikes are always slower than the > drop bar bikes. Which makes me think you must be a lot faster and that’s > the difference. I ride in 16-17 mph groups. But I’ve never tried to hang > with the 18+ mph guys. I bet I couldn’t hang with them. And I don’t know if > that’s me or my bars that’s the problem… > > > > On May 14, 2025, at 9:15 PM, Daniel Grilli <[email protected]> wrote: > > My experience matches yours, Jay. > > When I’m riding with my Ortho-bar Appaloosa, I struggle to keep up with > others on drop bar gravel bikes on the paved sections of a ride. > > On my Noodle bar Roadini, I keep up with others on ‘road’ bikes on a > social ride just fine. My friend on an upright bike with Jones bars did > not, and struggled to the point of it being unpleasant. The rest of us were > not struggling or even trying particularly hard at all. > > When I ride my Appaloosa with that same friend, we are perfectly matched. > > All that is to say there are swings and roundabouts, apples and oranges, > horses for courses or whatever. No bike is good at everything and there are > no wrong answers, only trade offs to be had! > > I’d love to try a Charlie, sounds so fun. > > > Regards, > > Daniel > > 15/5/2025 9:36、Jay <[email protected]>のメール: > > Great story Leah. I've never ridden with a kid, and when I started > reading your story I wasn't sure how it would go (like would he not be able > to keep up, out of shape, asking you to call his mom to pick him up; would > he leave you and others in the dust; so many things can happen). It was > entertaining. > > Regarding wind, the bike and its weight, I think it's more about > aerodynamics (how much frontal area exposed to the wind, for one). Even > though I ride weekly with a buddy who is faster (more aero, lighter bike), > he knows I'm more upright on my Roadini (drop bars level w/saddle) and is > okay going a few km slower than he would like. The camaraderie is worth > it! When I ride along, I'm a few km/hr slower, so I'm pedaling harder to > keep up, he's going slower, but it's all good. If I put an Albatross bar > on the bike and was 15-20 degrees more upright, I think I would really > struggle to keep up. That said, I have a bike with alt bars and I'm more > upright, and I like riding like that, just not when I'm trying to go fast > or in a group ride. Lastly, comfort. If being a little more stretched out > would not work for you, don't do it in any case. Whatever works for you, > keeps you happy and riding more, that's the ticket. > > On Wednesday, May 14, 2025 at 7:57:04 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote: > >> Leah, >> On a group ride a few years ago, okay maybe 12 years ago, one of the guys >> brought his son along. His son was on a full suspension mountain bike and >> we were all on carbon road bikes. He kept up with us pretty easily and >> rode a wheelie about half the time. We weren't pushing it by any means but >> it seems that youth always wins out. I do agree with you that wind is the >> ultimate speed killer and an upright position catches the wind like a sail. >> With drop bars in the drops you really can be out of the wind. When I had >> drop bars I would enjoy getting down into the drops now and then to stretch >> out my back. I don't remember any specific group rides in windy conditions >> but I have ridden in the wind many times solo. I would almost rather ride >> in the rain that wind...almost. >> Doug >> >> On Wednesday, May 14, 2025 at 7:01:10 PM UTC-4 ttoshi wrote: >> >>> I can commiserate with high winds! For my Bosco bars, I place my hands >>> on the front of the handlebars near the stem and tuck down--not ideal for >>> pacelining because my brakes are at the end of the handlebar. On my >>> Albastache, it is wrapped, and I've placed my brake levers at the front, so >>> I can use the most aerodynamic option as the default. 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