Update: continued the fine-tuning operation today by moving the saddle forward by 3-4 mm and tilting it up by one very fine notch in the DA 7410 seatpost, and also lowering it by about the same 3-4 mm — altogether, much better. Raising the bar often requires increasing the saddle tilt *pari passu* (as they say). The bike now has much more that “simply fall into a natural hand/arm/shoulder position” that so characterizes the 1999. Not *quite* as much, but close.
As Garth said, each bike needs its peculiar adjustments, but since this frame is, or ought to be, a geometrical clone of the benchmark 1999 Joe, that did stand well as a model or starting point. And of course, my measurements, when comparing reaches and heights, are very likely rather crude. https://youtu.be/-RlbYMVlq3k On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 10:10 AM Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > I mispoke; the change was closer to 3 mm or 1/8”; perhaps 4 mm. Still, you > are right about small adjustments in saddle height — and in saddle tilt, > IME. > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 8:06 AM Ted Durant <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Wednesday, January 28, 2026 at 4:49:22 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> This once again annoyed me on today’s errand ride, so after some more >> compulsive measuring I decided that I’d missed the exact bar/stem height by >> a couple of mm, and raised the bar by a scant 1/4” — scant in the sense >> used in recipes. >> >> Transformation! So do such miniscule adjustments make big differences. >> I’m very glad, as the Matt IGH fixed gear gets a lot of miles. >> >> >> I can relate. Think about it, though - if you changed your saddle height >> by 6mm, you'd notice that, right? >> >> Ted Durant >> Milwaukee, WI USA >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/29fc8333-d65d-42af-bc18-641dfe9b001fn%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/29fc8333-d65d-42af-bc18-641dfe9b001fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing > services > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* > > *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* > > *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* > -- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgspz74ffUT6n665dGotXDZTCs2hnkpE4krrfk3CexyzNw%40mail.gmail.com.
