I had *terrible* squeal on non-msw rims with motolites as well, fwiw. 

On Wednesday, May 20, 2026 at 7:44:08 AM UTC-7 Brian Turner wrote:

> A friend here reached out to say that the rims may be non-machined, which 
> could be causing the squeal coupled with the fact that everything is still 
> relatively brand new. I'm pretty sure all my other bikes running Paul 
> brakes have all had machined sidewalls, so maybe that explains why I've 
> never experienced squeal like this before.
>
> Brian
> Lexington KY
>
> On Wednesday, May 20, 2026 at 10:06:13 AM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:
>
>> Everyone, I am at my wit's end this morning trying to eliminate the 
>> squeal on my front Motolite that is on my new Sam. I'm usually pretty good 
>> at this, but for some reason nothing I am doing seems to work. For 
>> starters, this is a newly built Sam, with less than 30 miles on it. Pads 
>> are brand new Kool Stop thinline salmons.
>>
>> I've set the toe-in like I normally do, using a dime or a penny on the 
>> back end of the pad when tightening them in order to get the front of the 
>> pads to touch just slightly before the back of the pad. Squeals like crazy.
>>
>> I've tried adjusting the pad holders just slightly inward (same as 
>> toeing). Squeals just as bad.
>>
>> I've adjusted everything parallel to the rim (no toe-in). Squeals like 
>> crazy.
>>
>> I've cleaned the rims with alcohol. I've sanded the KoolStop pads. 
>> Nothing is working.
>>
>> This isn't my first bike with Motolites. I've always been able to get rid 
>> of it, but for some reason nothing I'm trying is working today. Any advice? 
>> I'm truly feeling like an idiot.
>>
>> Brian
>> Lexington KY
>>
>

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