Motolites with salmon pads are notorious for this. I replaced mine with the 
"ebike pads" Riv sells, they're awesome. 

On Wednesday, May 20, 2026 at 8:19:18 AM UTC-7 Brian Turner wrote:

> Thanks, Isaak! I'm going to assume for now that's what's going on here. 
> I'm going to leave it alone, crack open a beer, and maybe try to take it on 
> a long, dusty ride later today and see if it gets less the more I ride it.
> Because I've done everything I can think of up to this point!
>
> Brian
> Lexington KY
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2026 at 11:06 AM Isaak Oliansky <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>> I had *terrible* squeal on non-msw rims with motolites as well, fwiw. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 20, 2026 at 7:44:08 AM UTC-7 Brian Turner wrote:
>>
>>> A friend here reached out to say that the rims may be non-machined, 
>>> which could be causing the squeal coupled with the fact that everything is 
>>> still relatively brand new. I'm pretty sure all my other bikes running Paul 
>>> brakes have all had machined sidewalls, so maybe that explains why I've 
>>> never experienced squeal like this before.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> Lexington KY
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 20, 2026 at 10:06:13 AM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Everyone, I am at my wit's end this morning trying to eliminate the 
>>>> squeal on my front Motolite that is on my new Sam. I'm usually pretty good 
>>>> at this, but for some reason nothing I am doing seems to work. For 
>>>> starters, this is a newly built Sam, with less than 30 miles on it. Pads 
>>>> are brand new Kool Stop thinline salmons.
>>>>
>>>> I've set the toe-in like I normally do, using a dime or a penny on the 
>>>> back end of the pad when tightening them in order to get the front of the 
>>>> pads to touch just slightly before the back of the pad. Squeals like crazy.
>>>>
>>>> I've tried adjusting the pad holders just slightly inward (same as 
>>>> toeing). Squeals just as bad.
>>>>
>>>> I've adjusted everything parallel to the rim (no toe-in). Squeals like 
>>>> crazy.
>>>>
>>>> I've cleaned the rims with alcohol. I've sanded the KoolStop pads. 
>>>> Nothing is working.
>>>>
>>>> This isn't my first bike with Motolites. I've always been able to get 
>>>> rid of it, but for some reason nothing I'm trying is working today. Any 
>>>> advice? I'm truly feeling like an idiot.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>> Lexington KY
>>>>
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