> Fourth, an annoying clicking sound from either the BB or the interface > of the two. This is the second crank that has been noisy. My Zephyr > creaked with a UN72, but it eventually went away. This sound is > different, more clicking, and it's definitely from the BB area. I > must say I'm no fan of cartridge BB's, the three I've used have all > been noisy. With cups and cones, I never heard one noise.
I can think of no reason why a crank would cause clicking. Carmina is not a BB. If the problem is with the BB, get another BB. As long as it has JIS taper it will work with the crank. I am using mine with a White Ind. B.B. I don't have the bike yet, but the builder has said nothing about noise. > Third, the rings. If you're using a 10 speed setup, it may be okay. > For 7-8 speed setups, forget it. The rings, with all the ramps and > pins, make for a limited number of cogs available to use in each ring. > 3 for the small, 4 for the mid, 5 for the big. I swapped the rings out > for regular good ol' non pinned rings. Even then , I needed to use > some micro spacers to get good clearance between rings. The small ring > required a longer spacer too. Perhaps this is a reference to index shifting? I use friction. On Aug 4, 2:58 pm, Garth <garth...@gmail.com> wrote: > Bilenky sells the Carmina complete for a bit less. It was > significantly less, but they've raised their prices. > > I have mixed feelings about the Carmina, as I recently bought one. > > First, the BB sizing is soup du jour. You'll never know what it's > going to need until you actually get it. Forget anything you've read > online. Forget it. My 185mm arms take a 113mm BB for a 160mm Q on a > Bombadil(measured accurately on digital calipers about 10 times) On a > bike with more ring clearance, you could probably use a 110mm or even > 107mm. You don't need a Phil BB, I'm using a Shimano UN54. I little > heavier, but I care not. > > Second, the first one I received was crooked beyond acceptance, about > 1.5- 2mm of deflection. I troubleshooted it and it was either the > spider or the arms. I shipped it back to Bilenky, who ordered another > spider, and it was crooked too. It was likely improper machining of > the arm. They sent everything back to their distributor, and the > finally received a straight one. This took about 5-6 weeks. > > Third, the rings. If you're using a 10 speed setup, it may be okay. > For 7-8 speed setups, forget it. The rings, with all the ramps and > pins, make for a limited number of cogs available to use in each ring. > 3 for the small, 4 for the mid, 5 for the big. I swapped the rings out > for regular good ol' non pinned rings. Even then , I needed to use > some micro spacers to get good clearance between rings. The small ring > required a longer spacer too. > > Fourth, an annoying clicking sound from either the BB or the interface > of the two. This is the second crank that has been noisy. My Zephyr > creaked with a UN72, but it eventually went away. This sound is > different, more clicking, and it's definitely from the BB area. I > must say I'm no fan of cartridge BB's, the three I've used have all > been noisy. With cups and cones, I never heard one noise. > > Other than that, I love the crank. I mean..... it spins, holds the > rings, and hasn't broken, what more could a guy want? A quiet one I > suppose. > > If anyone gets one, make sure it's straight before you go riding it. > > I had considered, and still am , a Surly crank. Yeah, outboard > bearings are what they are, but no BB is a panacea. The Q is only 6mm > more than the Carmina with a 47.5mm chainline spindle. > > For you guys needing regular length arms, don't forget VO has three > new cranksets in the works, not just the ultra low Q Grand > Cru.http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2010/02/velo-orange-cranksets.html > Listed here . http://www.voimports.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=29 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
