I had a b17, b17 special, and a team pro. Replaced the team pro with another b17s. Comfort difference was slight, and I believe mostly due to lack of break-in due to thicker leather, but the pro didn't have saddle bag loops. Looks like some do and some don't (see wallbike.com photos). Just something to be aware of.
Gernot On Sep 14, 8:15 pm, Montclair BobbyB <montclairbob...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ah yes, the B68... I was skeptical at first, but I love this seat. I > commuted this morning on an old chrome Mongoose with a B68... it felt > GREAT... In fact it's my favorite short-distance saddle. On longer > rides it's a bit wide for my liking. > > I had a gorgeous brown Flyer Special which I could (and often did) > stare at all day long. This is based on the B17, but even though it > was sprung it wasn't nearly as comfortable as my standard B17. > Perhaps the it was thicker leather? I don't know, I've toiled over > this for years. Same goes for my B17 Special. It's awesome looking > and still very comfortable, but not quite as plush as the good ol' > honey B17... And I've been riding a standard B17 on my mountain bike > now for years, and will NEVER go back. In fact I'll soon be heading > out to Colorado for a few days of mountain biking... I will likely > rent a bike, but regardless I'll take along a B17 for sure! > > BB > > On Sep 12, 3:28 am, "Rene Valbuena" <valbu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > > I also prefer the B17 over the Pro on bikes with handlebar on level or lower > > than the saddle. The Pro model seems to be stiffer perhaps not because it > > has thicker leather but because of its narrower design. I don't have a > > Swallow but I think the reason it is more pleasant on the butt is that it is > > longer than the Pro and B17. > > > On B17s, I noticed that the standard model has a little more flex or bounce > > that I find more pleasant. But I cannot resist the allure of the bigger > > copper rivets on the champion special model. So I have both the standard and > > the champion special. > > > But on bikes with handlebar which make you more upright riding, I like the > > aged special model B68. > > > -- Rene > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel > > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:20 PM > > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > Subject: [RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom? > > > I'm surprised to see the comments to the effect that the Pro is > > "flatter" than the B17. I have a couple of each and find them all to > > have that distinct "hammock" shape. The key differences, as far as I > > can tell, are that the Pro is a narrower at the back and is made of > > thicker leather. (I have one Pro that is at least 15 years old. I > > periodically mount it on a bike and use it for a few hundred miles, > > then take it off again, because I just can't get it to break in. I > > figure it's got at least 3000 miles on it at this point, plus several > > different (increasingly radical) attempts at softening it. It's still > > hard as a rock and looks/feels exactly like it did out of the box.) > > > Overall, I just haven't had great success with Brooks no matter what I > > do, for exactly the reasons outlined by James: if I get the rear > > section level enough so that I'm not sliding onto the nose, the nose > > is angled so steeply up that it digs into me. Lowering the nose just > > causes the rear section to angle downward, sliding me back onto the > > nose. Arg. Even with a two-bolt post, there is no happy medium. > > > For some reason, though, the Velo-Orange saddles don't do that to me, > > even though they have the "hammock" shape too. Go figure. It's just > > too bad the V/O saddles aren't quite as nicely put together as the > > Brooks... > > > Noel > > Orange County, Ca. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
