On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 16:47, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bowed across the back, from side to side.  You can kinda' see it here.
> Front to back is pretty flat, with the tail up a touch.  B17 are like that,
> too.

I've been pretty happy on Pro-shaped saddles, although I have a Brooks
Pro that isn't quite right; my Fujita knockoff of the Pro was my
favorite.

The critical issue for me seems to be finding a flat (front to back)
spot to support my sit bones - if the saddle looks level overall, then
the spot where my sit bones goes is pointed down, and I'm sliding
forward, which means either I'm sliding forward onto more sensitive
parts or I'm resisting sliding forward with my arms, neither of which
is comfortable. So when the sitting spot is actually level, the nose
is pointed upwards. This is okay, as long as it's not pointed so far
upwards that it interferes with sensitive bits. My Pro has a sweet
spot where the back is level enough and the front is not too high, and
that looks like this:

http://james.architectureburger.com/cycle/bin/nish01.jpg

The problem I had with my first and only B17 was that it was too
saddle-shaped - I couldn't find a tilt that worked, I was always
either sliding forward or the nose was in the way of sensitive
anatomy. I think that not all B17s are the same and maybe I would be
better off on a different one, but I'm not sure.

I had a B17 narrow, and maybe it was too narrow - it seemed like I
couldn't keep away from the rivets.

So the Pro is the only one that worked for me. I would be interested
to try the Swift and the Berthoud, because judging by eyeball alone,
they look to me like they would work.

I guess if my email has a point to it, however, it's that you don't
know if a saddle is going to work until you ride it and experiment
with the tilt. Until I spent some time on rigid leather saddles, I had
no idea how saddles were supposed to work - in my foam-over-plastic
saddle days, I just sat down without thinking about it (and not always
with great results).

James Black
Los Angeles, CA

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