Correct. The Ritchey in my size frame, 58cm, has 73.5 seat and head
tube angles, 41.5mm chainstays. Wheelbase is 99.5. No lugs, but the
welds are pretty nice.

It has great sentimental value and quality Toyo construction, but
needed a repaint. I rarely rode it because the clearances were too
tight for all but 25mm tires. Rather than retire it, I decided it was
worth changing it to take 28mm Pasela tires and fenders. It's still a
rather stiff, snappy race bike, but a fair bit more fun and
comfortable to ride now.

Starting from scratch, I would get the Roadeo.

Ed



On Jan 13, 2:23 pm, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> as someone who's looked into this... The Ritchey's have shorter
> wheelbases and chain stays, and the seat angles are much steeper. And
> as mentioned tire clearance is less. All features I have come to
> prefer in the Rivendell bikes.
>
> And of course there is the absence of those beautiful lugs.
> ~Mike~
>
> On Jan 13, 9:54 am, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > For the sake of conversation, what would be the detail differences
> > between this and, say, a Roadeo?
>
> > Just axin', you know?
>
> > RGZ
>
> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:09 AM, eddie...@gmail.com <eddie...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > > Chris, my Ritchey can be seen here:
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/8193389@N06/sets/72157606645245888/
> > > or
> > >http://bit.ly/fHtURa
>
> > > I've got metal fenders to install when I get the chance. The SKS I put
> > > on to start are a little narrow.
>
> > > Ed
>
> > > On Jan 12, 11:05 pm, "XO-1.org Rough Riders"
> > > <adventureco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Ed, I'd like to see some photos of that customized Ritchey!
>
> > >> - Chris Kostmanhttp://www.XO-1.org
>
> > >> On Jan 12, 8:02 pm, "eddie...@gmail.com" <eddie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > Us too. I called Rivendell when Grant first mentioned a tandem a
> > >> > couple years ago in a reader, and tried to put down a deposit, but
> > >> > they declined. We're ready anytime, Grant.
>
> > >> > I have a Toyo-built Ritchey Logic road frameset that I bought new in
> > >> > 1995. After owning a couple of Rivendell production bikes, I had the
> > >> > Ritchey refurbished in 2008 with a new Bilenky steel fork with
> > >> > extended steerer tube, clearances changed to accommodate 57mm reach
> > >> > brakes and new fender eyelets. It's my personal Ritchey-Bilenky
> > >> > "Roadeo." It's not my best bike, but it's my favorite, if that makes
> > >> > sense.
>
> > >> > Ed Felker
>
> > >> > On Jan 12, 4:22 pm, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:20 PM, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > > > "If we ever do a tandem, we'll
> > >> > > > likely do the same. "
>
> > >> > > > I'd love to see it.  I'd hope to be able to consider buying one.
>
> > >> > > How many tandems pre-ordered does it take to cover the dev of the 
> > >> > > lugs?
>
> > >> > > Alternatively, would it ever be possible for a tandem as a 
> > >> > > full-custom?
>
> > >> > > I'm ever-hopeful but probably just going to talk to bilenky.
>
> > >> > > -sv
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