I just went out to put my bike in our element. I guess the lower bottom bracket makes a difference because my old / sold / X race bike the seat was to high to stand up in the element. No the AHH if I turn it sideways to get it past the entrance I can just barely stand it up.then I have to put the front wheel in first and turn it sideways at the front seat or it's too long to fit. Took two of us to wiggle it in. For long trip with just the wife and I it would be ok.. but not worth fighting on a regular basis to me. So I'll keep using the roof racks on my escape.
Note if like my you find your fenders too long for standard roof racks .. mine works great with my tandem rack and I found a place that sells singles with the sole intent to be high enough for fenders. At 115 bucks I am going to order one and see how it is. I think and won't swear to it that it was made by draftmaster. Kelly From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Grant Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:13 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? Make it at least four for the Element. It's not sporty in the least. We bought it because it's light for its size, its rugged interior can be configured variously, and because it can haul bicycles standing up with wheels on - at least as tall as my 60.5 cm Rivendell custom. We can put three people and three bikes inside the car if we remove a back seat. It has only four seats though, so now that we have twins, the bikes ride on a hitch-mounted rack out back. Ironic, huh? Also, please note that Honda has announced the end of production for this model, and probably won't support it as long as I plan to keep it - which is approximately for the rest of my life. Ours has been very reliable - no repairs outside normal maintenance for 50k miles now. -- Jon "Papa" Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 Drawings - all sorts _____ From: robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> Reply-To: <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:55:34 -0500 To: <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike? Well, Jim, that was the initial concern. I have a pick-up that is my company work truck and have a bed rack in there. So far so good. But it's when one wants to travel, and you are staying overnight, or you stop for a bite to eat, or it's really raining..... These are pretty nice bikes that can get crudded up pretty quickly, components aged quickly and in the case of a Brooks, potentially ruined. As I'm ending up w/ more time to be able to wander around, I was just looking for the type of vehicle described here and depending on the generosity of this group to relay their experiences. So far that's 3 for the Element. It ain't the sportiest thing out there to be sure but it does make sense. RGZ On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:41 AM, jim phillips <thefamil...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? That is > how I am transporting my Sam Hillborne (aka Crazy Horse). Is there a > downside to that? > > best, > > JimP > >> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best >> vehicle forhauling your bike? >> From: t...@cox.net >> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:02:56 -0500 >> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear >> carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower >> the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to >> fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more >> practical (this is with both seats removed). >> As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from >> Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made a >> trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in the >> back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, on all >> those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates. >> On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: >> >> > I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get >> > my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram >> > vertically inside "The Toaster." >> > >> > I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear >> > seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is >> > easy to clean up. >> > >> > I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good >> > enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. >> > >> > Angus >> > >> > On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front >> >> seat comfort too. >> >> Thanks for your insight (no pun). >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: j4gitr <jstoes...@comcast.net> >> >> >> >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 >> >> To: RBW Owners Bunch<rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> >> >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle >> >> for >> >> hauling your bike? >> >> >> >> I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle >> >> inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and >> >> the Katy trail with my 6'4" 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. >> >> It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever >> >> owned. I'm 6'6" 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been >> >> driving it for 4 years now. >> >> >> >> On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would >> >>> like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, >> >>> theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ >> >>> a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, >> >>> slide the wheel in next to it.... >> >> >> >>> Anyway, what is everybody else doing? >> >> >> >>> RGZ >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group >> >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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