Charlie, Being a little picky here, but fossil fuels will never totally run out. Peak Oil is about extraction not keeping up with demand and energy returned on energy invested (EROEI). IMO our biggest concern with Peak Oil and recourse depletion should be with the warfare that will accompany the competition between nations rushing to secure access to the remaining resources. If you have not read the 2010 Joint Operating Environment (JOE), published by JFCOM, I urge you to do so. In the report the military says, “By 2012, surplus oil production capacity could entirely disappear, and as early as 2015, the shortfall in output could reach nearly 10 MBD” The military goes on to say that humanity's next few decades will be filled with warfare. The German Bundeswehr has given a similar assessment of the world energy situation. IMO we are already feeling the effects of recourse depletion, 9/11, Iraq War, food riots etc... Who knows how it will all play out? But one thing is for certain, this is very serious and no magic technology is going to save us and allow us to maintain business as usual. Mother Nature does not care about what we want or think we deserve. Mother Nature only deals in reality and that reality can sometimes be very cruel. Shawn
On Jan 27, 10:03 pm, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Makes sense to me........ > > On Jan 27, 10:54 am, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > My brother, you paint too gloomy a picture. If we run out of fossil > > fuels-there's more than one way skin a cat. All cars, trucks, trains > > (don't know about planes) will be electric, so buy GE stock early. > > Short of some catastrophe the stone won't ever return, but that's a > > good thing. Will there be some mid-course corrections?, yeah > > probably, but that's a good thing. Some things will get worse, some > > will get better, there will be adavantages and disadavntages for each. > > It's all good, and not knowing is the best part, don't you agree? > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:43 AM, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I'm looking to get one of the new dyno hubs but can't seem to get a > > > firm price. I'd even pay in advance. It will be getting lighter out > > > soon so it might be moot for me to even have one until next fall. > > > Seems like the timing is a little off on these. > > > Bikes and cars yea.....what a long discussion all that was, what with > > > "being green" and all......I say its all hogwash. If we do run out of > > > fossil fuels you can kiss our roadways goodbye we'll all be walking > > > like Grok eventually and society will be back in the stone age. The > > > fact is, we humans are too dumb to figure it out from generation to > > > generation and we tend to forget the lessons of the past. Its a self > > > correcting problem ultimately anyway. If we mess it up so bad that > > > life as we know it all falls apart, enough of us will die off and the > > > human race can start again in some primitive way of living. The earth > > > will clean itself up atmospherically etc. and our bones will become > > > fertilizer for a future Groks vegetable garden. Until then, I intend > > > to ride often and live well......yes I recycle and probably live more > > > green than most people but I don't think it matters much in the grand > > > scheme of things. > > > In spite of my general skepticism I do think a generator hub, with a > > > clutch that is reliable, is a fine idea and I need lights on my > > > bicycle if I am to ride at night. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted > > > text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
