> I've been informed by a person with direct experience (to say the least) that > I could expect a 6-speed Suntour Winner or Winner Pro or a 7-speed Suntour > Winner "compact" freewheel to work on my wheel.
I second the advice if this works for you. I have Winner Pros and am very happy with them. On Feb 14, 1:11 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean <thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi! > > Well... okay. > > It's just that the Shimano freewheel I purchased from RBW doesn't work on my > wheel, which has a hub that is nominally for an IRD freewheel. > > There was plenty of room between the stay and the small cog. I didn't > cross-thread it or anything. It screwed on (and off, thank goodness) cleanly. > It just turned clunkily under any power. And the chain rested on the chain > stay when coasting. It wasn't completely frozen. But obviously it wasn't > functioning properly. And since all I did was screw it on, I don't think > there's anything else I could have done that would make it function properly. > > I guess there are many ways in which Shimano and IRD are substitutes for one > another. Just not on my wheel. > > I'm having deja vu... I once posted about my Sugino XD2 crank being > incompatible with my 107mm Velo-Orange bottom bracket (which I measured, just > to be sure). The several still-believed-by-me testimonials about using those > two products together didn't change the fact that if you tightened *my* crank > onto *my* VO BB's taper so that it was even approaching tight (and way less > than the spec'd torque), the crank would be in contact with the bottom > bracket's body. They were incompatible. > > I've been informed by a person with direct experience (to say the least) that > I could expect a 6-speed Suntour Winner or Winner Pro or a 7-speed Suntour > Winner "compact" freewheel to work on my wheel. Expensive. But not > unthinkable if it is spaced such that it indexes well. I suspect it is. I > wouldn't be happy getting just one; I'd need a "warm backup". > > But the maintenance path isn't clear to me. It seems I could maintain the > ratchet mechanism on one to last many thousands of miles (perhaps more miles > than I have in me... I'm riding about 100 miles/week). But wouldn't I expect > to need to replace at least some cogs every few thousand or so? If so, I'd > have to collect some cogs up front and make sure I can do that myself as > well. I don't know; I don't have any long-term experiences with freewheels in > general, let alone high-end ones. > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > > > > ----- omnigrid <omnig...@gmail.com> wrote: > > IRD freewheels are just Shimano-compatible freewheels, man. Nothing special. > > You dont need to use IRD...I wouldnt. > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean < > > thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > Oh, and I should note that this IRD specificity is noted in the "hub > > > dimensions" document on Phil Wood's site. Where, interestingly, it > > > does *not* list the dimensions for the IRD-intended hubs. > > > > I should also add that I suspect that this IRD difference is actually > > > a modern usage by IRD of a standard which has been around for some > > > time, the "compact" freewheel. Can anyone confirm/deny/clarify? > > > > Insomniacally yours, > > > Thomas Lynn Skean > > > > On Feb 14, 1:50 am, Thomas Lynn Skean <thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> > > > wrote: > > > > Hi. > > > > > It seems that Phil Wood has created a hub specifically to be used with > > > the IRD freewheel. I think it has to do with the IRD freewheel's sprockets > > > being spaced more closely than, say, the Shimano freewheel's. Or maybe > > > there > > > are other differences as well. > > > > > In any case, there is some significant difference in something. For when > > > I put the RBW-sold Shimano freewheel on my hub, it does not "coast" freely > > > at all. Now, maybe there's supposed to be a break-in period. But I don't > > > think that's what this is. The IRD freewheels I've used had no similar > > > issues when first installed. > > > > > Yours, > > > > Thomas Lynn Skean > > > > > On Feb 13, 2011, at 6:31 PM, omnigrid <omnig...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Phil Wood IRD hub? > > > > > > I think you maybe confused. IRD is a company or brand. > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:54 PM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > I have no experience at all with IRD. > > > > > > On my camper bike I use a Shimano Megarange FW. On my more sporting > > > > > bike I have a Suntour Winner. > > > > > > Picked up both from the eBay NOS store. No problems with either. > > > > > > On Feb 13, 4:45 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean <thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello, all! > > > > > > > Does anyone have any experience using the "Shimanopore" freewheel on > > > a > > > > > > Phil Wood "IRD" 7-speed freewheel hub? Does anyone have any > > > experience > > > > > > using the "Shimanopore" freewheel with a "normal" (i.e. non-"IRD") > > > > > > 7- > > > > > > speed freewheel hub? > > > > > > > I've had to replace three IRD 7-speed freewheels in 7 months. The > > > > > > first one (13-28) lasted a couple thousand miles but then started to > > > > > > fail to catch within a reasonable amount of rotation. The next one > > > > > > (non-mega 13-32) didn't work at all; the small cog was broken. The > > > > > > next one (non-mega 13-32) lasted only a few hundred miles before > > > > > > starting to "freeze" (introducing top-of-the-stay slack) and then, > > > > > > within a week or so, began to fail to catch like the first one. > > > > > > > It had just gotten cold when the first one failed. It has just been > > > > > > *really* cold when the third one failed. I don't know if that's > > > > > > related. > > > > > > > If these freewheels typically last only a couple thousand mikes, > > > > > > I'll > > > > > > be disappointed but I'll deal. If there's an alternative freewheel > > > > > > like the Shimano I'll use those. If fteewheels are just this > > > > > > inconsistent and I can't find an alternative freewheel arrangement, > > > > > > I'll switch to a cassette system ASAP and move on. > > > > > > > Anybody have any insights / info / suggestions? > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > Thomas Lynn Skean > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > . > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > . > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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