Do I have to tell people I'm a civil libertarian if I agree
enthusiastically with Montclair Bobby B?  Is there a pin I have to
wear?

On Mar 16, 3:47 pm, Montclair BobbyB <montclairbob...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> (Sorry I'm getting sucked into furterh debate, but... ) honestly I
> don't believe there's a legitimate argument for or against, regardless
> of statistics.  This comes down to a person's perception and
> sensitivity to risk.  Do you have tornado insurance?  Flood
> insurance?  These choices (and they're your choices) would likely be
> based on your perception of the risk that these events could occur,
> versus sensitivity towards protecting your assets.  Same goes for
> helmets or anything that can potentially offer protection.
>
> I "choose" to wear a helmet when I perceive there's a risk of harm to
> my noggin.  I don't care if helmets are declared by the leading minds
> in this world as unnecessary (based on statistics)... I'd still wear
> mine when I perceive potential risk of hitting my head on a low
> branch, concrete sidewalk or curb.  And this is based on the best
> evidence I have; past experience; actually hitting my head or having
> close calls.
>
> Conversely, even if wearing helmets were regarded as the most
> practical thing a cyclist can possibly do (by the so-called leading
> minds, based on statistics), unless required by law I would still
> cherish (and exercise) my right to ride without a helmet when I
> perceive the risk to be low (and therefore I'd also willingly accept
> the consequences of hitting my head).  That's MY choice.
>
> Bottom line, I don't care what statistics show, either in favor or
> against, nor will I EVER. I will ignore them over my own gut intuition
> between when it's right to wear or not to wear a helmet.  My head, my
> choice... period.  And I recognize the right of every person to make
> the same choice one way or the other.
>
> Peace,
> Bobby (semi-but-mostly helmeted) Birmingham
>
> On Mar 16, 6:11 pm, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Travis <travisbreitenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Ann, to indulge your semantic reply I will change #2:
>
> > > 2) Does cycling dramatically increase your risk of suffering brain
> > > damage, death, or paralysis due to impact to the head versus
> > > showering?
>
> > Here's what I want to know, and what I haven't seen compelling data
> > on: Will a helmet materially change my risk of damage, death or
> > paralysis while cycling?
>
> > Sadly, we've had some recent cyclist deaths in my area. The cyclist
> > fatalities I hear about are seemingly cyclists like me, cycling on
> > roads that I ride on. They were wearing helmets, like I do, and their
> > helmets failed to protect them from death.
>
> > And then I hear about other local cyclists crashing and recovering
> > from broken wrists, broken collar bones, broken legs-- these people
> > seemingly didn't hit their heads at all.
>
> > And then, I suppose, there are cyclists who crash and hit their heads,
> > but their helmets prevented or mitigated their injuries.
>
> > But what I want to know is, in what proportion of accidents would a
> > helmet make a difference? In some accidents, helmet or no helmet the
> > cyclist would die. In some accidents, helmet or no helmet, the cyclist
> > wouldn't have a head injury, or wouldn't have a head injury that made
> > any difference, or would have struck something with, say, their chin,
> > so a helmet wouldn't have helped. In some accidents, the helmet saves
> > the victim-- but how many accidents are like that? Don't say, one is
> > enough-- the danger has to be significant enough so wearing a helmet
> > is worth it; I don't wear a helmet when taking a shower.
>
> > --
> > -- Anne Paulson
>
> > My hovercraft is full of eels
>
>

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