"It's basically a roady frame, not a country bike, not a touring bike, just a really nice and versatile road frame kind of the way the Rambouillet was, and the Roadeo would be if it were a hair heavier and had rack mounts. A ROAD bike with clearance for tires up to 33mm with fenders, or 35mm without. The kind of bike you'd get for road riding, club rides, charitable centuries, and occasional careful smooth fire roading. The kind of bike guys who buy $6,000 carbon frames should've gotten instead, but they don't think so."
And this bike needs a second top tube?... that's nuts. It's a road bike, not an off-road bike. It simply doesn't need a second top tube in large sizes. Look at the tens of thousands of large steel road bikes out there; do any have double top tubes? Look at the Rambouillet. And are these bikes prone to collapsing like a deck of cards for the lack of a second top tube?... of course not! Are they so flexy that they're unstable? Ask any of the RBW or iBOB readers who ride larger (60cm +) steel road bikes. The second top tube idea is just silly and will keep many from buying this bike. "Hey let's add some extra weight to the bike without any reasonable benefit and see if people will buy it?" Yeah, these will just fly off the showroom floor! On Apr 17, 9:53 am, bfd <bfd...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 17, 9:09 am, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote:> I guess > there is no accounting for taste, because I have always dug > > the second top-tube (I prefer the name 'innertube' to 'undertube', but > > i digress) ever since the bombadil came out, although I agree it > > probably works better on a mountain/all-purpose bike. I was also > > drawn to the plain-gauge tubing. I still like the bombadil's > > concept, even though now it is changed, but the original parallel > > second tube is hard to beat in my book. > > I agree in part. There are many, like yourself, who like the double > top tube look. That's great and with only 15 framesets per size, it > should easily sell. However, Grant is not marketing to you or those > who like it. Instead, he specifically said the frame is aimed at "bike > guys who buy $6,000 carbon frames." That's ridiculous. People in the > market for $6K carbon bikes are not looking at either 650b or double > top tubes. The only way either of those things get popular with the > $6K carbon crowd is if someone in the Tour de Frances wins on one. Now > THAT will get people's attention and sell these kind of bikes. Of > course, its not going to happen.... > > > FWIW, I was in Harris Cyclery the yesterday, and they have a 58cm > > Hunqapillar built-up in the show room. It has the gray/red paint > > job. All I can say is, pictures don't do that bike justice. > > I haven't seen one of those yet and I live in San Francisco! I'm sure > there's a few around as I do see alot of Riv bikes. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
