On Jun 14, 4:08 am, islaysteve <alkire...@verizon.net> wrote: > In view of the other thread about the nice Rambo for sale on CList, I > thought I'd start a general discussion of used Riv prices. Just > because it's kind of interesting. Someone on the other thread implied > that it's not reasonable to compare the asking price of a used frame > to the price of a new frame, esp. if it's a different model. I > disagree. Long ago I had a job processing claims. The principles > apply, I argue. To use my own example, you can't buy a new Bleriot. > If you want a new Riv frame that's close to a Bleriot in geometry and > function, you buy a Sam. Back when they were sold, Bleriots cost $750 > (such a deal!). Today new Sams cost $1100 (?) or $1500, and that is a > whole other discussion in itself. In my size (small), they cost > $1500. So when I paid more than the original cost for my pristine > Bleriot frame/fork, was I foolish? I don't think so. Riv frames in > my size on the used market are not available all that often. So the > other part of this equation is depreciation: the word that insurance > companies love and claimants hate. I think you have to agree that > most things, Riv frames included, depreciate. If you'd rather have a > new frame out of the box from Walnut Creek than a used frame from Joe > on eBay, that's depreciation. If the used frame has some paint > chipping around the dropouts, that's.....you get the picture. We can > argue about how much to depreciate a Riv frame, or anything else. I > wouldn't depreciate it down to 25% after say 10 years, like some > claims payers might. So to wrap this up, my point is that it's > reasonable to look at the price of a comparable new frame (bike), > decide what kind of depreciation to apply to the used bike in > question, and go from there. And of course the buyers emotions and > wants play into this a good bit. I would have rather had an orange > Sam with Hillborne graphics than the blue Bleriot. But it just wasn't > worth nearly double the price to me. Cheers, Steve
This is interesting. On SFCL, there were like 5 Riv bikes/framesets for sale a couple of weeks ago. The prices varied from about $1300 for a blierot bike to over $3k for custom Riv. Today, there is only one listed a custom Riv complete bike (Curt built) for $1350: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/2436837304.html Seems like a great deal, if you fit it! Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
