http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXa39ICIrk

This is a quick watch and gets to a lot of the points in the book.  Worth a
few minutes if you don't have the time or inclination to buy and read the
book.  BTW - I know people who exercise way more than me, but they are
double my weight. Exercise may be good for your muscles and a way to release
stress, but it ain't a diet.  Exercise is a fad, a crutch for those with
time/money to kill - like most of us.

I found the other more important (to me) ideas he is talking about in the
book are not weight related, but the ties our carb rich diets have with
cancer, diabetes, heart disease, etc...

Brian
Seattle

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:54 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't doubt Taube's ideas work for some, even for many; what I doubt
> (from other things I have read and from what I simply have seen in NA,
> Europe, Asia and Africa) is that it contains the entire truth about
> nutrition and related health. Again, there is simply too much variety
> across the world and across history.
>
> In particular, I discount the idea that exercising more will making
> you gain or at least keep you from losing weight, at least as a
> universal proposition; not my experience at all.
>
> I'm certainly glad that Taube's ideas worked for you.
>
> And of course, I admit, that were I to undertake a scholarly
> examination of the book, I'd have to read it first. But I did read and
> re-read all the Riv published on the subject
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Zack <zack...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I would suggest reading the book.  There is lots of information about
> > activity levels having no direct correlation to obesity (other than as we
> > get fatter we are less active, and get more tired when we do an activity,
> > which then leads to us eating more).  Worth a read, it will take an
> > afternoon, and what you read may change your mind.
> > I would say that Taubes spends half of the book debunking the calories
> > in/calories out myth.  Again, not a scientist, but this is working for
> me.
> > I have eaten organic vegetables for about 10 years, i would say that most
> of
> > the time I eat about 90% OG, we have a farm share/CSA that keeps us knee
> > deep in veggies from spring to fall.  No question that the increase in
> > veggies helps one to feel healthier.
> > If we are talking dropping weight though, cutting carbs has been the only
> > way I have been able to do so.  Personal trainers, food plans, food
> > journals, vegetarian, vegan, all have failed me in the past.  I am no
> more
> > or less committed to this way of eating than I was to those.  I was
> trying
> > to lose weight and was really frustrated that I wasn't successful.  At my
> > heaviest I was 265 (I am 6'3"), i cut carbs out for a short time about
> three
> > years ago after being diagnosed with a fatty liver (NASH) and dropped
> down
> > to 210.  I then added carbs back in and went back up to 240, and am
> moving
> > my way back down again.  My activity level has remained relatively
> constant,
> > as has the amount of food that I eat.
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