So I guess I'll wait to get that disc brake bicycle......the heavy
duty rims sound fantastic.

On Dec 5, 11:08 pm, Grant Petersen <gep71...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Many of you will remember, and all of you can relate to Keith
> Bontrager's maxim from the late '80s:
>
> Light Strong Inexpensive: Pick Two
>
> It works to some extent with all bike parts, but even IT can't come to
> the rescue when the thing is just too light.
>
> Do you know the thickness of the braking surface on a typical road
> rim? It's about 1.2mm. Some are 1.1. That's what fails when rims wear
> out and blow out. Well...1.1 or 1.2mm looks like nothing, which you
> consider the abrasion they're subject to and can't possibly avoid.
> (Disc brakes have their own set of problems, so let's stay on track.)
>
> It used to be common practice to inspect brake pads AND rims, but
> raise you hand if you can remember the last time you did that.
>
> How much should a non-racing 700c rim weigh? How thick should the
> braking surface be, and how tall? How wide should it be?
> Reasonable answers,  kind of, could be: Weight: 500g. Thickness of
> braking surface: 2.5mm. Height: 11mm. Width: 24mm.
> But a rim with those specs would weigh about 800g. I believe this
> because we're having a NOBS rim made to our specs, and it has 1.6mm
> braking surface, 10.5mm brake surface height, is 25.4 (1) mm wide, and
> weighs about 650g. It's wider than 24, but way thinner than 2.5, and
> the 10.5<11. I think this is a totally reasonable rim, in every way. I
> wanted 2mm of braking surface, but that would have meant zero buyers,
> so we settled on the world-record 1.6, bringing the weight down to a
> near world record 650g, and even though I think it's a perfectly
> fantastic rim for general nonracing use---touring, trails, commuting,
> all purpose riding when there's not a timer or a finish line with a
> banner---I believe we'll end up selling it mostly to guys who weigh
> 300 pounds and are sick and tired of wheel problems...because most
> riders like the idea of stout stuff, but don't really want the weight
> that comes with it.
> We'll continue to offer other rims....but this new rim will be the way
> to go when you truly, really, want a durable rim and wheel.
> (Anyway....the new stouty won't be available for many months).

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